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Old 07-26-2005, 07:59 PM   #15
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OK, here are some pictures,

The root of the problem


Under the gaucho


The streetside, showing the pump. I imagine the pump originaly went under the gaucho but the PO made a little box aft to house it, one of my projects it to put that right.


This little junction box in the bathroom closet houses the polarity light next to the battary box.
I havn't opened it, but can't imagine the trailer light wiring is in here.


Hopefull these are of some help.

Peter
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:20 PM   #16
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I do know that on some of the older Argosys they did not use the standard wiring block that most of us are used to seeing in the more popular mid-1970's Argosys.
You will be able to find it along the street side on the inside of the trailer.
If it is not there, then it may very well be further back.
At any rate, you should be able to follow the cable up into the trailer and follow it. That is something an old GM Electrician taught me; "If a cable starts somewhere, it has to end somewhere".
Keep in mind that your trailer is over 30 years old and has probably seen a lot of "repairs" over the years. Sometimes they are improvements and other times they are done without much thought or common sense.
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:28 PM   #17
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Yikes I see my pictures didn't come through

Here they are as attachments

The root of the problem


Under the gaucho


The streetside, showing the pump. I imagine the pump originaly went under the gaucho but the PO made a little box aft to house it, one of my projects it to put that right.


This little junction box in the bathroom closet houses the polarity light next to the battary box.
I havn't opened it, but can't imagine the trailer light wiring is in here.


Hopefull these are of some help.




Ithought I could be clever and add the images in-line after uploading them as attachments, then deleting them from the attachments.
The forum software also deleted the images from the server but I saw them because they were in my cache.

Peter
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:38 PM   #18
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Thanks,

I guess I'll keep digging, but I can't follow the wires from the A frame, they disappear when the frame changes from a channel to a box section underneath the LPG tanks.

Perhaps this is a modification, are they normally C section all the way?

I'll have to see what I can do with the belly pan.

Thanks for all your help everybody. A great first post experience!
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Old 07-26-2005, 08:51 PM   #19
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Thanks,

I guess I'll keep digging, but I can't follow the wires from the A frame, they disappear when the frame changes from a channel to a box section underneath the LPG tanks.

Perhaps this is a modification, are they normally C section all the way?

I'll have to see what I can do with the belly pan.

Thanks for all your help everybody. A great first post experience!
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I don't think that the frame changes are a prior owner modification, my 1979 Safari has a boxed tongue and a c channel frame, my 1954 Liner has a c channel tongue and frame.

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Old 07-26-2005, 09:28 PM   #20
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Frames usually do not change.
The owner modification I was referring to is with the electrical from the TV plug not the frame.
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Old 07-26-2005, 10:14 PM   #21
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Hi, Peter,

On my '75 Argosy 28, the hitch cable comes up under the gaucho on the left-hand side and goes under the left-hand side wrap interior wall. You have to remove the front center wall panel inside to see it. Is that what you've already done?

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The second photo you posted looks promising.Is that not the wiring on the left side above the water tank? My 61 had a hole drilled in the bottom of the wall and the wires came to a junction box about there.Note too that the brake wires will go down through the frame channel and not into the coach.May need to peek under the belly pan.
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:36 PM   #23
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hmm

Your 24 sounds very simular to my 26 (front dinette, mid twins, rear bath). Our pump is streetside too, with the tank across the front.

I'm in the same boat, starting to have electrical feed problems (from the tow van), I've been tracing what I can see of the wires.,... no junction box noted in the trailer (and I've had it almost all apart recently for my replumbing job).

I'd look in the belly pan streetside by the front (best guess!)
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Old 07-27-2005, 08:41 AM   #24
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If you do check in the belly pan (and I really doubt you'll find the connections there on 70's Argosy), be sure to drill out the rivets and remove the pan intact -- don't cut it.
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Try to splice on to the wire that you have if you have enough old wire exposed. If you are having trouble, it is probably in the light sockets or electric brakes.
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I have a '72 26' Argosy trailor and there is no juction box on the inside. The wire is in the wall and goes to all the lights and brakes. It was not made to be repaired. Sorry.
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I was afraid of that.

There is not enough slack in the existing wires.

It looks like surgery is required



Thanks all



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Peter, don't despair. You can easily de-rivet a section of interior wall enough to access the wires, cut them off, and install a proper junction box near the water pump, for new wiring. You'll have to remove the gaucho frame and probably the water tank. But it's really not that hard.

Don't cut the wall sections or the bellypan. Drilling out the pop rivets that hold the interior wall skin in place is simple. Once you've done the job, re-riveting the wall is even easier. You might break some of that plastic edge trim, but replacement material for that has been discussed on this Forums in other threads.
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