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Old 10-07-2013, 07:05 AM   #71
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Water heater

We got the new thermocouple we needed and now the water heater fires up just fine.

We'll get to use it for the first time at Fallunimum. It would have been this upcoming weekend but the gov't decided it didn't want my campground money.
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Old 02-21-2014, 01:18 PM   #72
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Good Afternoon,

We just purchased a 24' Rear Door Argosy this last weekend (and had an EPIC return trip from NC to MD to bring it home). 247Stream's example is MUCH cleaner and complete than ours and until today I had no idea that it was anything special. Only that I fell in love with the inside arrangement when I saw the pictures online and HAD to have this one after I saw it in person. I adore Wiky (Our Wicked Painted Lady) but wanted to learn more.

1. Does anyone know how many were made?
2. Is it true that the 24' Rear Door Argosy was only offered in 1977 (I have found where the 22' Rear Door was offered for 4-5yrs?)
3. Would we be terrible people if we re-painted or "Wrapped" our Wiky something wild or different than the original?

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Old 02-21-2014, 02:13 PM   #73
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Old 02-21-2014, 02:32 PM   #74
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Greetings Lee!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage first generation Argosys!

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Good Afternoon,

We just purchased a 24' Rear Door Argosy this last weekend (and had an EPIC return trip from NC to MD to bring it home). 247Stream's example is MUCH cleaner and complete than ours and until today I had no idea that it was anything special. Only that I fell in love with the inside arrangement when I saw the pictures online and HAD to have this one after I saw it in person. I adore Wiky (Our Wicked Painted Lady) but wanted to learn more.

1. Does anyone know how many were made?
Production numbers for first generation Argosy travel trailers are relatively difficult to find. The factory has been very frugal with the information that they have released regarding production figures for any individual models. Some owners have tried to get an idea of approximate production numbers by posting "registry" threads where owners report their VINs and compare production sequence numbers and manufacture dates to gain some insight into production.

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2. Is it true that the 24' Rear Door Argosy was only offered in 1977 (I have found where the 22' Rear Door was offered for 4-5yrs?)
From factory literature, I can find listings for the Argosy 24' rear door in the following years:

1979:
There is no mention in the brochures of any standard width 20-foot, 22-foot, or 24-foot coaches. The brochure does, however, list 6.0 Meter (20-foot) Minuet, 6.7 Metre (22-foot) Minuet, and 7.3 Metre (24-foot).

1978:
Only lists standard floorplan with door ahead of axles for 24-foot. The brochure that I have doesn't list the 22-foot standard width Argosy nor does it mention the 6.7 Metre Minuet . . . there was, however, a 1978 6.7 Metre Minuet so the brochures don't necessarily list all models for a given model year.

1977: Lists both 22-foot and 24-foot with door behind axles.


1976:
Only lists standard floorplan with door ahead of axles for 24-foot. Listing of 22-foot with door behind axle continues to be listed.

1975:
Only lists standard floorplan with door ahead of axles for 24-foot. First listing of 22-foot with door behind axles.

1974:
Only lists standard floorplan with door ahead of axles for 22-foot and 24-foot.

1972 & 1973:
Only lists standard floorplans with door ahead of axles for 22-foot and 24-foot.

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3. Would we be terrible people if we re-painted or "Wrapped" our Wiky something wild or different than the original?
That is one of the more relaxed features of restoring/refurbishing an Argosy as unlike collector car restoration, Argosy restorers are much more forgiving of changes to color schemes and modification that have the potential of increasing the longevity or usefulness of the RV. The choice is yours, and I think that you will find very few, if any, in the Argosy community who will criticize another owner's color choices.

Enjoy your new-to-you Argosy!

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Good Afternoon,

We just purchased a 24' Rear Door Argosy this last weekend (and had an EPIC return trip from NC to MD to bring it home). 247Stream's example is MUCH cleaner and complete than ours and until today I had no idea that it was anything special. Only that I fell in love with the inside arrangement when I saw the pictures online and HAD to have this one after I saw it in person. I adore Wiky (Our Wicked Painted Lady) but wanted to learn more.

1. Does anyone know how many were made?
2. Is it true that the 24' Rear Door Argosy was only offered in 1977 (I have found where the 22' Rear Door was offered for 4-5yrs?)
3. Would we be terrible people if we re-painted or "Wrapped" our Wiky something wild or different than the original?

Lee
Welcome, both to AIRForums and to the stewardship of a vintage Argosy.

As Tom S mentioned, the Argosy is yours to do with what you wish. I'll be repainting our 28' Rear Bedroom 1976, and will likely take SOME liberties. However, it seems to me that the white paint on the upper part of the trailer is an advantage in hot climates over the silver trailers. In hot, sunny conditions it's easier to keep our 24' Argosy comfortable inside than Airstreams with higher-capacity AC units (we still have the original tough-as-nails Armstrong AC unit on the 24').

So, when thinking about color schemes, light colors on the top and possible a white coating like Ceramiflex on the very top of the roof may make a difference in hot places in the summer.
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Old 02-22-2014, 01:56 PM   #76
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Tom,
Thank you, we are actually pretty happy our girl came to us rough, it justifies some of the ideas we have in mind for her without actually destroying something rare or original. Wiky has none of the original fabrics inside (seems she was redone at some point) and was painted with some type of house paint at some point. Thank you for the reassurance.

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WOW wonderful info and detailed, thank you for the time taken and knowledge
in responding. I actually found that same ad for the Argosy layouts and a few more that only showcase the 22' rear door and others. Has anyone even seen a 24' Rear Door for sale or on this site or anywhere else that was other than a 1977? We seem to have gotten lucky finding something that works perfect for our needs and has a cool history and story. Wiky is "new-to-us, but like any worthwhile or interesting lady, she has a history and a past!

DKB,
All good advice and I had not even considered the fact it would keep it cooler with a lighter color. I'd be very interested in seeing how you progress in the project, will you be posting pictures and updates?

Another question, anyone have a clue on the value of our 1977 Argosy? My significant other and I went round and round about the cost of this 37yr trailer that we were unsure if even any of the systems worked. We actually left and drove off because we could not reach a deal, but relented, turned around and gave them what they asked because this was THE trailer. We had seen over 18 trailers (3 Argosys) in person, in just over 10 days, and this was THE trailer.

I would like to be able to tell my guy "hey look, we really did get a bargain" before we start buying all the other stuff we will need to get her tip-top shape LOL. But I was not leaving NC without the trailer.

After we bought the trailer and hooked it to the truck we sunk both the trailer and truck axel deep in mud, 3hrs later after digging everything out and it was dark we drove off headed home. (We duct taped and gorilla taped cardboard to the Pan windows-someone here suggested it, unfortunately it tore off some of the paint on the trailer when we removed it). 15mins on the road we had no lights on the trailer and could only get lights on one side of the trailer working. After an hour of trying we bought a trailer light kit from AutoZone and away we went. Shortly thereafter we stoped for gas and found that again there were no lights, or License Plate (also duct taped but now gone). We were still 5hrs form home. Every 15mins we pulled off to wiggle adjust and get them working again, then it started to snow.

Please understand, I have never pulled a trailer before, but this was not so bad, until the snow came and we could not see the road any longer and the Salt Trucks ahead of us were not really having an impact. There is much more, but we made it back after 3am the next morning and began the painful process of learning how to back a trailer down into a cul-de-sac, into a driveway (we now have no license plate). Once we got it half onto the lawn, across the driveway (without hitting the telephone pole) we called it done and went to bed. I really hope we get better at backing the trailer up, imagine how bad it would have been if we brought a bigger one home!?

I still love it, the layout the size... can not wait to actually camp in it, we have been having lunch there and hanging out, working on cleaning, but I am ready to camp!

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i.e. Without the License Plate we could not park it on the street.
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Congrats. I saw that Ad and was hoping it would go to someone here.

How are the floors - any rot?
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Cool trailer. I didn't know they made a rear door back then.
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Rhino,

We found a 4" X 2" spot of rot on the corner of the doorway threshold which butts up against the corner of the shower as well. Because the carpet is "carpet squares" we were able to look at most of it (feels and looks solid, but who know for sure) only softness was right where the rot/hole is there at the door, which we will have to address soonish. We found this site a few weeks before we found our trailer. Once we bought the trailer I searched/googled for another and found this thread, as well as the original posted pictures of 247Stream's incredible beauty. Other than that all I can find are 22' rear door models, but love them too!

desertair27 do you own all three trailers? WOW
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Yes I own those 3 and a 78 Safari that's the trailer we use. The others need lotsa work.
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No judgement here I totally understand we just got the Argosy *Wiky* and I was still looking at other Airstreams thinking we should have one to use and one to "work on" my Man said (in no uncertain terms) "NO, No, No" he loves and adores me lol but there is no room in the garage or driveway!

Also I recently discovered he is lurking reading these posts *waves* hi baby!

We are going to focus on fixing up Wiky... was this site is amazing been reading other threads and will be doing a deep dive into floor repair to fix the rot/hole at the threshold/bathroom corner, want to do it right, but we need to camp in her in june. The justification for purchasing the trailer is my health condition that means we can not camp in the tent anymore, that and we are getting too old to sleep on the ground!
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We are purchasing a new marine battery, tires and rims first. The compartment that holds the Battery will only allow us to go one size larger (and still fit) will one size up in battery size make that big a difference?

Says My Guy:
Right now the trailer has a group 24 in it. I am looking into the Group 27 which is alittle bigger and might fit but I need to measure the compartment. A group 27 will not offer alot of difference.

Anyone want to offer some input?
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