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Old 06-11-2019, 09:12 PM   #1
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1975 Argosy 28' frame resto/reno

This is my first camper as well as my first thread on AF. Im 3 weeks into my restore/reno and figured its time to let some airheads chime in.. im seeking sound advice on where to go next with the frame (reinforcing, rear seperation prevention, rust resistance, axle/shock assesment) ..things of this nature. Wisdom on shell on/off controversy. Whats my best options on how to go about repairing the c channels/outriggers.. where do i buy them? Ok thats enough questions.. heres my argo photos from 3 weeks ago up until where i got todayClick image for larger version

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Old 06-12-2019, 08:48 AM   #2
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Welcome to the Forums!

I'll address your questions in order of appearance:

Q: im seeking sound advice on where to go next with the frame (reinforcing, rear seperation prevention, rust resistance, axle/shock assesment)

A: Well, you can either just repair your frame so that it is like it was when manufactured. Those rotting outriggers can be purchased or made from scratch. The Argosy frames were intentionally made lighter, more spartan than the Airstream frames, so you could "upgrade" your frame to look more like an AS frame of that era, by adding outriggers and putting a cross member every 2' and eliminating the wooden stringers that run from front to back. There are lots of pictures of AS frames on these forums to give you some guidance. There are several threads detailing the best practice for preventing rear end separation, which amounts to putting an L shaped flashing inside the rear end skin and extending the base of the L out under the bumper trunk. Rust resistance can be achived by painting the frame with POR-15. If you have the original axles and shocks then they are definitely shot. The torsion axles only have a lifespan of about 25 years. If you aren't sure, then one way to check the axles is to jack it up and measure the amount of travel the arm makes as the weight is removed from it. 12-3 inches of travel is good, less than that is bad. Lots of threads detailing how to evaluate an axle.

Q: Wisdom on shell on/off controversy.

A: I'm not sure there is controversy. Many folks use a gantry or some type of jacking to lift the shell, some folks replace the subfloor with the shell on. I suppose it boils down to personal preference. Some people think they don't have the space to take the shell off, some are just intimidated by the process, and feel more secure with the shell sitting on the frame. My opinion is that doing the floor and frame repairs with the shell on is doing it the hard way. There are lots of things you can do with the gantries if you go that route. Again, lots of threads showing frames suspended from gantries for painting or repair, etc..

Q: Whats my best options on how to go about repairing the c channels/outriggers.. where do i buy them?

A: I have bought both C-channel and outriggers from outofdoorsmart.com, but I would expect other AS dealers sell them as well. There is no rocket science involved with the outriggers, any competent welder ought to be able to fab up something that would do the job. You can also buy factory cross members from the above source, if you plan to add crossmembers to your frame (or, again, just have the welder fab them up from some angle iron).

good luck!
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Old 06-12-2019, 11:24 AM   #3
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Great response, much appreciated. I will be applying much of your suggestions especially AS frame "upgrade" ill continue to explore those threads & shop around outofdoorsmart. Ill post updates as the frame resto/reno moves along on this thread. Thanks!
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Mars Argo I am saving your interior pics as I am doing a '76 28ft and I have a puzzle lol the PO took everything down some not so gently and left it on the floor. I started clearing it out today and labeling what I could figure out and will start looking for reference pics on the forum.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:20 PM   #5
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Hey, very cool! if there is anything i can do to help, lemme know! I labeled and took pictures prior to to takin out the skins ill try to get some better photos with approximate measurments. Got a ton of orig interior if you goin for a traditional restore
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:29 PM   #6
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Mars Argo I am saving your interior pics as I am doing a '76 28ft and I have a puzzle lol the PO took everything down some not so gently and left it on the floor. I started clearing it out today and labeling what I could figure out and will start looking for reference pics on the forum.
First two pictures for your inner skin reference (ill take more so you can get a better idea as soon as i get the chance) rest are original interior if you need anything let me know!Click image for larger version

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Thanks for the pics I am def missing more pieces than I thought. The couch is one thing for sure that is missing but the base with the roller doors is there but the metal has oxidation holes in it so on to plan B with that lol
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13 outrigger replacements (5 on curbside, 8 on roadside) purchased from outofdoorsmart. Attached few pics of original/rusted out ones for referenceClick image for larger version

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