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04-06-2018, 03:45 PM
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#81
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Countryboy59
I was simply asking a question. Jesus. Anyone know the answer?
My classic is pristine. You would not come out of it well.
I know everyone who posts here is perfect, but not everyone is.
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It's irreverent if it was pristine. It's less so now.
So you want punishment for damaging your Classic but want forgiveness for him damaging something that belongs to all of us?
Nobody's perfect. But he's a jerk.
You make your own lot in life. If you decide to run a company that caters to those who visit parks, you need to realize that desecrating a park may cost you your livelihood.
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2014 25' Flying Cloud Rear Twin
2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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04-06-2018, 03:55 PM
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#82
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,653
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Drunk?
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04-06-2018, 04:29 PM
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#83
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam
It's irreverent if it was pristine. It's less so now.
So you want punishment for damaging your Classic but want forgiveness for him damaging something that belongs to all of us?
Nobody's perfect. But he's a jerk.
You make your own lot in life. If you decide to run a company that caters to those who visit parks, you need to realize that desecrating a park may cost you your livelihood.
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I missed the 30 minute window to make an edit (the dinner bell rang). "irreverent" should have been "irrelevant". Actually, both worked.
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2019 Ford Expedition Platinum
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04-06-2018, 05:00 PM
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#84
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Rivet Master
2008 22' Safari
Spicewood (W of Austin)
, Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 2,981
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadWest
Detroit is too good for this bum. Southside of Chicago or East St. Louis.
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Naw.....send him to GITMO! Thats a federal prison which he deserves!
My wife and I visited Smoky Mtn's last fall and during one of the tours visited the old grist-mill and cabin. Entering the mill area is a sign that warns against any defacing or graffiti with heavy penalties.
But the old, original cabin with hand-sawn planks and pegged floors.... inside were simply COVERED UP with graffiti, love notes, hearts, and initials carved and scribed with permanent markers to the point of total distraction from the pioneering-methods of construction that the cabin was intended to illustrate. Disgustingly tragic. No one seems to get it anymore.
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04-06-2018, 05:16 PM
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#85
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NO HUMBLE OPINION
1968 20' Globetrotter
ANN ARBOR
, THE GREAT LAKES
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 670
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There are more than a few other name-brand trailer threads, and threads of trailering groups, that parallel the feelings found on Airforums..
Reading through, discovered that this Arches National Park Arch had also been defaced with the name ANDERSEN
http://abcnews.go.com/US/graffiti-et...ry?id=38761196
I am not a graphology scientist….
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04-06-2018, 07:44 PM
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#86
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4 Rivet Member
Palm Desert
, California
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 301
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Foster
In case you missed this, the owner of Andersen Hitches vandalized the one of the most famous arches in Arches NP and then posted a photo of his family in front of his graffiti !!!!
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If I were a judge and he came before me, it would not end well. Unfortunately, that's not likely how it's going to go. Vandals get caught, slapped on the wrist, and go their way.
The irony of this is that most news stories of bad acts are the opposite. Upstanding hard working parents get a call that their son/daughter are perps and they are shamed. But here the parents are showing the way.
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04-06-2018, 08:37 PM
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#87
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Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 864
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Edistobob
I just sent an email to the Andersen Hitch Co expressing my disdain of Andersen's actions and pledging to never again purchase any of their products. I also pledged to encourage others to avoid them as well. I suggest that others contact the company with expressions of disapproval too. He needs to feel the consequences of his terrible behavior.
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I did as well and requested a refund for the Leveler that went in the trash today. Would never use his products again. Disgust.
steve
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04-06-2018, 08:52 PM
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#88
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
, xxxxxx
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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I wonder how many disgusted people will toss their multi-hundred dollar hitches in the trash.
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04-06-2018, 09:06 PM
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#89
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Glendale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
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Us, too.
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04-06-2018, 09:10 PM
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#90
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3 Rivet Member
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Glendale
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 152
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveSueMac
I don't know if this will work, but I am contacting Andersen about a refund/return and I am buying Camco's curved levelers (similar concept, different execution - I posted a link on an earlier reply).
Whether Andersen refunds or not - I won't use them. Using them tends to promote their business. And I don't want to do that - or have to enter in to lengthy discussions with campers who see them and think I don't care about national treasures because I have the red levelers under my trailer.
Your mileage may vary...just sharing what I'm doing in response to this awful news.
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I’m with you. Ordered our Camcos today. We won’t use the red ones any more.
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04-06-2018, 09:26 PM
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#91
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Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,114
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He is a foolish businessman.
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04-06-2018, 10:05 PM
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#92
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 8,210
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Ordered our Camco leveler ramps just now. If we like them, we’ll toss the red ones.
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04-06-2018, 10:44 PM
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#93
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4 Rivet Member
2005 28' Safari
formerly of Tustin, Huntington Beach, Dana Point, and Laguna Beach
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 398
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There are a few here that have suggested easing off the pedal a bit, and that's generous in the hope the Andersens' acknowledgement of their poor judgement is heartfelt. But it didn't appear to be a spontaneous mistake on their part, especially if they are also guilty of engraving their name elsewhere. His company and employees may indeed suffer from his actions but don't forget the generations to come who have no choice but to recognize his family name engraved on top of Mother Nature's work over thousands of years. Some may offer "Let those without sin cast the first stone" but based on what I've read, he first chose to ignore "A word to the wise is sufficient."
The Andersens chose poorly.
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04-07-2018, 03:06 AM
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#94
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2 Rivet Member
2016 27' International
Ada
, Michigan
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 63
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Social media can sure bring out the worst in people.
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04-07-2018, 04:14 AM
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#95
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CRH
I wonder how many disgusted people will toss their multi-hundred dollar hitches in the trash.
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None will. But a few buyers may choose elsewhere when purchasing a tow hitch or RV supplies. I have noticed on other travel websites, the Anderson's are also receiving negative opinions for their poor behavior at the Arches NP.
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04-07-2018, 05:57 AM
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#96
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
, New England
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ronderful
Social media can sure bring out the worst in people.
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Can you say more about this?
What did social media have to do with his decision to vandalize our property and involve his kids in the cover up?
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04-07-2018, 07:00 AM
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#97
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Site Team
2009 25' FB International
2018 27' Globetrotter
Tavares
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,722
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I think the least that we, as a community who treasure the beauty of this country, can do is contact the company and express our disgust with the actions of Mr. Andersen. They have a website, https://andersenhitches.com, with a contact email address.
Boycotting the company is another option, of course.
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04-07-2018, 07:06 AM
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#98
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Rivet Master
2023 23' International
Macon
, Georgia
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 705
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One good thing that may come of this, with all of the justified outrage and social media negative exposure it is getting, hopefully it will bring additional awareness to the public as to how terrible these acts are and they must stop.
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04-07-2018, 07:27 AM
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#99
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3 Rivet Member
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 141
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I was at Corona Arch last week. It’s a 1.5 mile hike in, have to climb a ladder on the way. So I don’t get making that effort with your family to see a special place and then defacing it? Makes no sense at all. Not sure what kind of person thinks like that, amazingly privileged and selfish!
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04-07-2018, 07:30 AM
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#100
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Retired
2008 30' Classic
Currently Looking...
Livingston
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 850
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heslinhotel
I am appalled by this jerks actions. He obviously has larceny in his heart.
After all who carries a spare set of plates for their car and tt? And if he did not have a spare set were they going to steal a set from someone else?
I hope they look into a maximum penalty sentence, 1yr in jail AND $100K fine.
This is as bad as the Boy Scout leader who thought it was fun to topple the balancing rocks in another NP several years ago...
I will do everything in my power to point out this idiot to anyone I see camping who is using his products what he did.
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Who carries spare plates? Toll evaders, for one. It may be he switches out the plates to stiff tolls, even though he is more affluent than many of the 'normal' users..........
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2008 Classic 30'
2019 F250 4x4
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