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04-05-2018, 07:53 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' FB Flying Cloud
Longmont
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,107
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Sounds like contributing to the delinquency of a minor. Multiple counts.
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04-05-2018, 08:00 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 25' Flying Cloud
Waco
, Texas
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 296
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As Airstreamer's we seek natural beauty and this owner of Anderson Hitches was caught in the act defacing a National Park and a geologic wonder. Shame on his entire family for their terrible behavior. Boycott Anderson Hitches.
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04-05-2018, 08:27 PM
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#23
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Rivet Master
2007 27' Safari FB SE
NW Oregon in a nice spot
, Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 879
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I doubt that he really cares about what he did or what we on this forum think. In less than a year everyone will have forgotten and this forum will be saying how wonderful his levelers are he then moves on in life making money off of people who want to enjoy the environment he apparently feels he has the right to satisfy his ego with as he wishes.
A very sad situation I must say.
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04-05-2018, 08:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,996
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From the earlier post by "Phillip Jones, Let's all take a big breath. He definitely made a mistake and I suspect he has learned from the public shaming".
I agree about the public shaming and lessons. I would hope none of my many mistakes in life would grow to such a public outcry. That has to be difficult.
I feel for him and his family. There is likely more to the story that we'll never know.
I get stuck at the point where the passersby did try to warn him, did try to stop him and he kept at it. They say once you know better you should do better. If he really wasn't aware of what he was doing people were making him aware so why not stop then.
Then when you realize a real level of responsibility or consequence is going to impact you you make your children complicit. You send them to the parking lot to switch license plates. Really,,,,,, I believe that speaks to the character of a person more than to the level of the mistake he made.
His letter of apology was contrite but still sounded a bit entitled to me. Darn him for being all about himself.
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04-05-2018, 09:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
Corona
, California
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 9,180
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Owner of Andersen Hitches vandalizes in Arches NP
I don’t and won’t forget. A certain large Pizza chain has not seen me as a customer fro about 30 years due to their blatant display of a poor customer service attitude toward my family. Apparently they couldn’t have been bothered to come over and take our order for over 20 minutes in a fully staffed empty restaurant that affected table service.
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2012 shortbed CrewMax 4x4 Toyota Tacoma TV with more antennae on it.
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04-05-2018, 10:05 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
2012 27' FB Eddie Bauer
Sparks
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 1,116
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I understand this may have started an investigation tying this to a 2016 carving of a 5 foot large “Anderson “ also at Arches.
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04-05-2018, 10:59 PM
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#27
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Journeyman
2016 25' International
Amherst
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 956
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff1
I understand this may have started an investigation tying this to a 2016 carving of a 5 foot large “Anderson “ also at Arches.
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Holy crap. Really?
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04-05-2018, 11:12 PM
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#28
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,377
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04-05-2018, 11:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1995 25' Excella
xxxxx
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Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,351
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I don't like what he did, but I am not scraping my levelers and going back to wooden blocks, either. He's already got my money. I don't see how tossing a good product that's bought and paid for in the trash is fixing anything. Sounds like that would hurt me more than him.
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04-06-2018, 12:37 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 8,377
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Hi, I never forget; Zale's and Penny's lost me close to 50 years ago. If I had anything from Andersen It would be destroyed and scrapped so no-one could use them.
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2000 Navigator / 2014 F-150 Eco-Boost / Equal-i-zer / P-3
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04-06-2018, 05:07 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 7,402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CRH
I don't like what he did, but I am not scraping my levelers and going back to wooden blocks, either. He's already got my money. I don't see how tossing a good product that's bought and paid for in the trash is fixing anything. Sounds like that would hurt me more than him.
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I don't know if this will work, but I am contacting Andersen about a refund/return and I am buying Camco's curved levelers (similar concept, different execution - I posted a link on an earlier reply).
Whether Andersen refunds or not - I won't use them. Using them tends to promote their business. And I don't want to do that - or have to enter in to lengthy discussions with campers who see them and think I don't care about national treasures because I have the red levelers under my trailer.
Your mileage may vary...just sharing what I'm doing in response to this awful news.
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04-06-2018, 05:49 AM
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#32
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4 Rivet Member
1989 29' Excella
1979 31' Sovereign
1999 25' Safari
Youngsville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 345
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I am appalled by this jerks actions. He obviously has larceny in his heart.
After all who carries a spare set of plates for their car and tt? And if he did not have a spare set were they going to steal a set from someone else?
I hope they look into a maximum penalty sentence, 1yr in jail AND $100K fine.
This is as bad as the Boy Scout leader who thought it was fun to topple the balancing rocks in another NP several years ago...
I will do everything in my power to point out this idiot to anyone I see camping who is using his products what he did.
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04-06-2018, 06:08 AM
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Rivet Master
Vintage Kin Owner
Lin
, Ne
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,430
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Wonder how he would feel if someone put a PP tattoo on his wifes butt and then said oh, I'm sorry.
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04-06-2018, 06:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 30' Excella 1000
small town
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 802
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sheriff1
I understand this may have started an investigation tying this to a 2016 carving of a 5 foot large “Anderson “ also at Arches.
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Should we hang him from the middle of the arch, or to the side? Sunset or sunrise, which would make a better photo op? I bet he's left marks all over this country. Sad for the kids having parents like this. I'll adopt them, and show them to respect one another, and especially nature. Catching a fish is survival...releasing it shows compassion................... Kind of ironic.... promoting camping ''nature'' while defacing it.
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04-06-2018, 06:39 AM
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Rivet Master
1999 30' Excella 1000
small town
, Maryland
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 802
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Quote:
Originally Posted by r carl
Wonder how he would feel if someone put a PP tattoo on his wifes butt and then said oh, I'm sorry.
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''PP was here'' would be better.
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04-06-2018, 08:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 16' Basecamp
Currently Looking...
Chgo. N.W. Burb's
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 628
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Vandalism
Hope the Anderson's don't visit my favorite Parks!
Spare "Plates" for truck. ???
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04-06-2018, 08:16 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,654
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Philip Jones
Let's all take a big breath. He definitely made a mistake and I suspect he has learned from the public shaming. Let us all hope we don't make similar mistakes in the future, as we are all human.
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A mistake is when you accidentally back into the water spigot or write that 2 + 2 = 5.
Defacing a centuries old landmark, and swapping license plates to avoid capture is not a mistake. It's a crime.
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04-06-2018, 09:06 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2017 27' Flying Cloud
London
, Ontario
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 250
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Fair enough and I accept your point.
Perhaps, as suggested earlier in this thread, he should make a big donation to the BLM. It wouldn't compensate for his act, but at least it would be a start.
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04-06-2018, 09:29 AM
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#39
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Rivet Master
2016 27' Flying Cloud
Olympia
, Washington
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 618
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Shame, shame, shame.
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04-06-2018, 09:31 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' FB International
2007 19' International CCD
Steamboat Springs
, Colorado
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,020
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I vote for maximum fine and jail time. He should not be able to buy his way out of this. This was intentional and he attempted to cover his tracks.
The Anderson Levelers are coming out of the trailer. I'll use the heavy duty "Utility Blocks", which I find are more versatile. The Andersons do not work well on gravel or uneven surfaces.
I just do not want to associate with his destructive actions every time I see one of his products.
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