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Old 04-14-2018, 09:51 AM   #253
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OK OK............we all agree. Let's move on.
We are now carrying the negativity so far that it is hurting US.
A little more New Testament, a little less OLD.
The path forward is to never forget that bad behavior needs to be corrected or controlled. It is not to be allowed to proliferate. It is unacceptable in our civilization. It can be changed. Thank you for adding to the post count of the thread. We appreciate your input. Negativity is bad. We all need to be positive. Never forget! Don't get mad, make a difference. Pat
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Old 04-14-2018, 10:03 AM   #254
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SJWs.... -- snip -- cyber bully a company into bankruptcy. -- snip --.
Actually the intent is to encourage this fellow to change. Poor management may well result in a bad outcome, but the event was self generated. The behavior was learned from some life event. If a new life event helps his kids learn a different lesson, that would be a good thing. However, generating rage through a bad learning event is not productive. We appreciate your opinion. What do you suggest would be an effective course of action? Pat
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Old 04-15-2018, 10:23 AM   #255
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Telling everyone we meet in the RV world about this behavior and what we personally did with the Andersen products we had purchased is the most powerful tidbit we can share. We actually would be doing something besides ranting in this very limited audience forum.
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Oh, Switz - agree, agree, agree ...... but don't discount the value of ranting, with style of course, to good people who might pick up the thread of your thoughts and pitch in with their actions too. Thanks for contributing to the thread. Pat
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Old 04-15-2018, 11:54 AM   #257
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First trial of the Camco ramps, parking and leveling in a driving rainstorm: we definitely needed something on the bottom of those ramps to stop them slipping as we backed up onto them. The Camco ramps are both shorter and steeper than the old red ones that we don't want to use anymore. Shorter = clear benefit for trailers with 2 or more axles. Steeper ramp = greater need for traction on the bottom of the ramp.
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:07 PM   #258
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First trial of the Camco ramps, parking and leveling in a driving rainstorm: we definitely needed something on the bottom of those ramps to stop them slipping as we backed up onto them. The Camco ramps are both shorter and steeper than the old red ones that we don't want to use anymore. Shorter = clear benefit for trailers with 2 or more axles. Steeper ramp = greater need for traction on the bottom of the ramp.


I have seen strips of rubber used.

I will use the leftover “puzzle” type rubber flooring for mine. Probably last one trip as it is not a solid rubber.

The Camco ones do slip easy !
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Old 04-15-2018, 12:49 PM   #259
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I finally sent Ryan Andersen a direct message. Again stated that involving his son in the coverup was his worst act, and that just having a spare set of plates says that he is a career con artist.

I also said I would bet big money that he would be incensed if someone used weed killer on his lawn to leave him a message.
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Thought someone discussed holes in the bottom that will take cleat screws. Sounded like a way to reduce slipping and sliding. A stack of legos solves the problem, provides a firm pad for the stabilizer pads, a foundation for the jack and higher lift when that proves necessary. And then there are those vintage 2x8 planks that you and the kids built for the first trip to Yellowstone.

Spread the Defacer2018 story and enjoy your RV trips. Pat
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First trial of the Camco ramps, parking and leveling in a driving rainstorm: we definitely needed something on the bottom of those ramps to stop them slipping as we backed up onto them. The Camco ramps are both shorter and steeper than the old red ones that we don't want to use anymore. Shorter = clear benefit for trailers with 2 or more axles. Steeper ramp = greater need for traction on the bottom of the ramp.


Thanks for the update. I'm wondering if rubber skids on a 1" deep plank would help? Or screwing in some screws in the holes on the bottom to act kind of like studded tires?

You're right that the shorter/steeper characteristics can increase slippage...
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I finally sent Ryan Andersen a direct message. Again stated that involving his son in the coverup was his worst act, and that just having a spare set of plates says that he is a career con artist.

I also said I would bet big money that he would be incensed if someone used weed killer on his lawn to leave him a message.


That's great, Paula. Messages spot on!

When you say "personal message" do you have an address other than his "apology" page contact? I've sent 2 messages through that and 2 to the company - no responses at all to any of them.

I gave them a window to allow me to send them back their levelers. That passed. They went in the recycles....

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-- snip --no responses at all to any of them. -- snip --Attachment 308775
We may be expecting change in too quick a time frame, but it looks like
NO RESPONSE is the RESPONSE.
Plan is - Pay fine, ignore protest and ride it out.

The campfire story is worth telling. Red seems to recycle well.

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I would have just rattle canned them black and played dumb if someone asked what brand they were if someone asked and I didn't feel like advertising for Andersen.
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I would have just rattle canned them black and played dumb if someone asked what brand they were if someone asked and I didn't feel like advertising for Andersen.


Tempting idea - but I couldn't do it.

Oddly enough - there's a black set by a different company that looks exactly like the red version....wondering if they're connected or if this might be a patent violation....

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078T...4PL&ref=plSrch
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So, I wonder if the CEO of Airstream had scribbled "Airstream" across the rock how many people would torch their trailers to teach him a lesson.
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