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Old 04-10-2018, 03:42 PM   #183
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:05 PM   #184
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The Camco levelers looks smaller (pictures can be deceiving I know). Are they smaller and are they lighter?



Just curious.



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Yes smaller (shorter), yes lighter. I'm looking forward to using them!
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Old 04-10-2018, 04:09 PM   #185
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They are shorter, a bit lighter (less plastic) and a bit easier to carry due to their design. The bottom of the curved ramp is still smooth and could slip. Two ways to address this: (1) Friction tape - I still have some left from having bought this for those red levelers. It worked for them, so I will try it again here. (2) stainless steel screws added to the smooth bottom of the leveler. In this case, the levelers already have small holes in the bottom (I imagine for water drainage) and it would actually be quite easy to drive screws of the proper size into a few well-chosen holes for improved traction, similar to studded snow tires.

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The Camco levelers looks smaller (pictures can be deceiving I know). Are they smaller and are they lighter?

Just curious.

Thanks!
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:31 PM   #186
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Just opened the portal and could not find this thread. It is not enough to recycle and forget. A very nice lady just said, she was not going to shut up. Not specifically about this subject, but we should adopt her dedication. Get the word out. Be active. Make your point. Be clever, be loud, be in the game. You can't damage, deface, disrespect, destroy our great country. Conservation and adventure are not exclusive.

Teach the kids to use photoshop, not a hammer and chisel..... to make monuments in the mind, not on public lands...... to take pictures, not rocks..... to respect the beauty of nature, and never yield to the stupidity of the moment. Never shut up! Pat

Next, step to the microphone, please!

Edit - still no change in the website "news" or "about us" section .....?????
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Old 04-11-2018, 04:23 AM   #187
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The portal lists only the most recent posts, which this now is!

Good points, Pat.

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Old 04-11-2018, 05:38 AM   #188
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So that new readers don't have to go back and find the links, here is the apology and "contrite" photo from Post #125 etc. :

https://ryan-andersen.org/



Reminds one of a scene from Lonesome Dove, in which Capt. Call [Tommie Lee Jones] puts a whoopin' on a cavalry scout who was beating one of the hands on the cattle drive. [Call's son it turns out, as we learned later in the movie]

"I hate rude behavior in a man . . . won't tolerate it." [time stamp 0:55]



[Warning -- the following video clip contains violence and graphic footage of a fight in the Old West.]
[ . . . Watch at your own peril . . . ]
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Old 04-11-2018, 05:45 AM   #189
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The other day I saw the Camco levelers packaged with an anti-slip mat. I can't find it now.
Oops, it was the red ones. Cancel the order.

Camcos on their way.
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Old 04-11-2018, 07:24 AM   #190
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So that new readers don't have to go back and find the links, here is the apology and "contrite" photo from Post #125 etc. :

https://ryan-andersen.org/



...snip....


Also note that from his "apology" site, there's a link to help him figure out how to make this right. While I've received no acknowledgment of my note submitted on that form (see text below sent Saturday morning, email address is included in the online form), I am assuming he is seeing/reading these. Despite no response from the form and no response to multiple emails sent to the company directly, I would still encourage people to offer your thoughts as you see fit.

Here's the text of what I submitted to the apology site FYI:


An apology is a good start. But apparently others warned you about this before you did it and you did it anyway. And the news told of some chicanery you involved your kids in to switch license plates to avoid recognition. There's more here than is covered in your apology.

First - I've already emailed your company wanting to return the levelers I bought for a refund. I've been free advertising for you for 4 years directing countless fellow campers to you who were intrigued by your admittedly outstanding product. I've raved about your products in online forums. And despite the online wars about hitches (and my use of something else) I've encouraged some to check out your innovative trailer hitch. I regret that. I don't want to use your products anymore and be associated with your actions or company in any way.

As for next steps - first - you need to address whether you had any involvement with another carving of ANDERSEN that's been making its way around the Internet. If that's you - you need to own up to that immediately.

Second - a 7 figure donation to BLM and National Parks would be a good start - but an ongoing % of Andersen Hitch revenues and your personal income would be a good sign.

Third - a permanent, sustained, sincere, effective self-funded educational program to fight against this kind of senseless, selfish vandalism of treasures for which we all must be stewards seems essential.

There's more but this is the bare minimum for starters.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:08 AM   #191
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-- snip --Third - a permanent, sustained, sincere, effective self-funded educational program to fight against this kind of senseless, selfish vandalism of treasures for which we all must be stewards seems essential. -- snip --
SSM - YES - a "life change" commitment. Appropriate and well stated.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:35 AM   #192
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Thanks for the link OTRA15. Mr. A. could have picked a more subdued picture, but the letter sounds sincere. Actions speak louder than words, so lets see what his next move is. Donating to blm land before an assessment of damage would be a good start. Sponsoring a cleanup operation at blm campgrounds is another good example. Instead of Smoky the bear, Have Ryan the raccoon promoting leave no trace...ok bad idea. Ricky the raccoon? Start a National campground cleanup day in the fall. Any other suggestions? Nice letter SSM...the inspiration for this post.
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:10 AM   #193
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Ryan/Ricky the Raccoon! Great idea! Use the form on his apology site!
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Interjection of a comic/cartoon creature into this criminal activity is a revolting idea, in my opinion.
Using the crime-dog "Take a Bite out of Crime" would serve the purpose. (preferably with the dog holding the seat-of-pants torn out of Ryan's prison-uniform in the dog's mouth.)
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Old 04-11-2018, 10:50 AM   #195
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Well, I hear that Boxite. The damage is done and I certainly don't want to make light of it. There could be a hundred things to make this redemptive and better for the future - if a cartoon character helps with that - great. What other ways could we suggest to them??

I still recycled the levelers and will continue to speak out. No single right approach to react and improve....
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