Closed Thread
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 04-07-2018, 06:08 PM   #127
Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Long Island , New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 9,032
Originally Posted by Wayne&Sam View Post
In his post he seems contrite. Let's see if he follows through on his pledges. I hope he does.
Thanks for the link.

His contrition might seem more authentic if it was paired with a contrite photo, not some PR smiley-face shot of the two perps.

OTRA15 is online now  
Old 04-07-2018, 06:18 PM   #128
Rivet Master
2012 19' International
Southeastern MI , Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,639
Originally Posted by dougsmiley View Post
I want this level of disposable income. Oh I'll just destroy something I spent $1000 on because the owner of the company that made it did something wrong.
Probably gonna have to cut up a few brands of car too...just sayin lol

2018 International Serenity 27' FB
Michelin 16 tires
Hensley Arrow hitch

Tow Vehicle: Ram Laramie 2500 crew cab, Cummins 6.7 Turbodiesel
Countryboy59 is offline  
Old 04-07-2018, 06:59 PM   #129
Lost in America
mojo's Avatar
2015 27' FB International
2006 25' Safari FB SE
2004 19' International CCD
Santa Fe , New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,654
I remember when a climber, heavily endorsed by Patagonia, climbed up on Delicate Arch in the NP. And Patagonia initially defended him. Have not set foot in one of their stores or gave them $1 since.
This is the strangest life I've ever known - J. Morrison

2015 Airstream International Serenity 27FB
Chevy Silverado 2500HD Duramax Diesel

mojo is offline  
Old 04-07-2018, 07:11 PM   #130
Rivet Master
StreamNTyme's Avatar
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Carolina Low Country , South Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 730
Images: 27
You can make a difference.
He says he is under investigation by the:
All the emails for all the officers are on the site
Go to contact us, then National office.
Lets not let him get away with this.
StreamNTyme is offline  
Old 04-07-2018, 08:52 PM   #131
Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville , Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,624
Blog Entries: 1
Not something I would do. Not exactly the crime of the century either. Be interesting to see if some type of charges are actually made. I am guessing not. Juvenile behavior from a suppose to be adult is more the way it seems. It happens. Frequently. Maybe the public shaming will help. Personally I would still buy the products if I wanted them.

I have no idea what the "trading plates" thing is about or if it is even true.
Bill M. is offline  
Old 04-07-2018, 09:00 PM   #132
Rivet Master

2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City , Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 975
Just to be clear, this was not in Arches National Park, but on BLM land outside of Moab, a beautiful 110 high arch called Corona Arch. I have hiked to it a few times. I'm hoping BLM takes action, if this had been in the National Park, you can be sure the NPS would be coming down hard on him.

It was stupid, selfish, and tone deaf. How a grown man would think that it's OK to scrape graffiti in such a beautiful place in the back country is beyond me. It's not like he was a kid being stupid. He's an adult.

His 'apology' letter was emtpy in my opinion, and only written because he got caught.
pcskier is offline  
Old 04-07-2018, 10:38 PM   #133
Rivet Master
2015 30' FB FC Bunk
Ayer , Massachusetts
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 990
Originally Posted by pcskier View Post
His 'apology' letter was emtpy in my opinion, and only written because he got caught.
Ted S. is offline  
Old 04-08-2018, 12:12 AM   #134
Rivet Master
1999 28' Excella
New Orleans , Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 702
Images: 2
I hope they pursue this and investigate the 2016 5 foot Anderson to see if he was in the area to do that carving also.
badkat is offline  
Old 04-08-2018, 02:10 AM   #135
Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Long Island , New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 9,032
That carving spelled ANDERSEN with an "E" . Link from Post #85:

PS -- See Posts #122-124 also.
OTRA15 is online now  
Old 04-08-2018, 10:02 AM   #136
Rivet Master
PKI's Avatar
2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
Walnut Creek , California
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 3,030
Andersen Manufacturing: When only the best will do.

This was not the best. His customers deserve to see a better representation of that promise. His kids and the employees do too. A life change to stewardship from appologies makes for a much better best. Pat
PKI is offline  
Old 04-08-2018, 10:19 AM   #137
Rivet Master
Boxite's Avatar
2008 22' Sport
Spicewood (W of Austin) , Texas
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 1,579
$5K fine is hardly sufficient penalty for doing this sort of damage, IMO. Mandatory prison and aggressive enforcement with hidden cameras might catch a couple of perps and make this sort of behavior less attractive to others.

I can't help but feel Ryan Andersen is only sorry he got caught being stoopid...and thinks we are also if we fall for his "contrite" msg. I hope BLM makes an example of him ...for the benefit of all.

(Am I being harsh and unforgiving? When I think of the times I've heard/read people say of ex-cons that "they've paid their debt to society" after their prison-term... it gives me a sense of disbelief. There is no "debt" to society built into the penal system. How does one "repay" for the murdered child or any other crime which cannot be un-done? Did it bring the child back? That debt is forever. Simple fact. The penalty is only punishment in the hope of deterrence and unless the penalty is severe... the behavior will not be discouraged in others. When was the last time you heard of an execution? It happened midnite behind closed walls and done "without pain or suffering" to the perp... as if that were the perp's concern for the victim when the crime was committed. If executions are to be a deterrent...they must be executed in public. And any pain/suffering should be commensurate with the method... hanging is my recommendation. In this case, Andersen should have to perform hard, corrective labor in view of the public and on the BLM lands commensurate with his crime as well as a prison term. If vengance is the Lord' is forgiveness. It ain't my job to do it.)
2012 Ram 1500 Crew Cab 4.7L 4X4
Boxite is offline  
Old 04-08-2018, 10:46 AM   #138

1968 20' Globetrotter
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 502

His apology page is annoyingly lame. Appears lawyer prepped to display remorse and restitution, which may be advantageous when it comes to sentencing.

I'd rather see a photo of the two of them in orange jumpsuits and shackles. These are not the kind of people we want in our society.

I hope the BLM/Park Service has enough teeth to thoroughly prosecute this crime and investigate the other ANDERSEN carving, which had to have been premeditated, as there are no natural tools in the vicinity with the ability to carve that deeply, that would support someones spontaneous inspiration to vandalize the Arch.

No one pulled a Swiss Army knife out of their pocket to do that. Looks like, with premeditation, someone packed in a hammer and chisel in order to intentionally deface the Arch with the ANDERSEN name.

Fines cannot affect them significantly, Hard Jail Time might awaken them. If they are responsible for defacing other monuments, they're a pathetic, sick family.

When convicted of guilt in court, in support of our National Treasures and acknowledgment of the disrespectful nature of this crime, I'd like to see the LDS Elders donate all the ANDERSEN family's tithing to NPS restoration until the second coming.

This is NOT the place!
ALUMINUMINUM is offline  
Old 04-08-2018, 11:33 AM   #139
Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville , Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,624
Blog Entries: 1
Do not much like the idea of "make an example" of someone as a deterrent. Justice is supposed to be "equal" and to fit the crime. The deterrent is supposed to be the certainty that you will be caught and punished. Not the idea that if you are prominent the punishment will be outrageous because of that.

It is a big leap to just assume he wrote the big Anderson.
Bill M. is offline  
Old 04-08-2018, 11:48 AM   #140
lynnsr's Avatar

2018 20' Flying Cloud
Colorado Springs , Colorado
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 71
Originally Posted by Boxite View Post
The criminal's name is AndersEn... with an E... and not my honorable family-name passed down to me since 1530 by my Scot ancestors named AndersOn. Thank you.
If the shoe doesn't fit then don't wear it


lynnsr is offline  
Closed Thread

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Has anyone towed in slippery conditions with an Andersen No-Sway hitch? Storis Towing, Tow Vehicles & Hitches 10 08-19-2018 05:00 PM
Suggested RV Sites for Mohab Utah? JFScheck Our Community 14 06-18-2010 01:39 PM
Boycott International jimmickle WBCCI Forum 39 04-11-2007 01:08 PM

Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.

Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.