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Old 12-24-2008, 09:05 PM   #15
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Very sad to see the plants closing, I really feel for all those workers who lost their jobs. I hope things make a turn for the better soon.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:02 PM   #16
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Yes, it's bad for the workers. As for some fun Al Goreism... this was my favorite from last year.

ABC News: Al Gore's 'Inconvenient Truth'? -- A $30,000 Utility Bill

... Hmmm... a $30K a month for electricy. That's almost a bambi a month.

But just to be fair, IMHO Dan Quail is still has the best "choice of words" on the outtakes.
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Old 12-30-2008, 11:03 AM   #17
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To be fair, it's really $30,000 a year not $30,000 a month. Or only 20 times the average American home.

"Nashville Electric Services records show the Gores in 2006 averaged a monthly electricity bill of $1,359 for using 18,414 kilowatt-hours, and $1,461 per month for using 16,200 kilowatt-hours in 2005. During that time, Nashville Gas Company billed the family an average of $536 a month for the main house and $544 for the pool house in 2006, and $640 for the main house and $525 for the pool house in 2005. That averages out to be $29,268 in gas and electric bills for the Gores in 2006, $31,512 in 2005."

The pool house eh. Well I'm glad they're not wasting it.

By the way they don't talk about Global Warming anymore for obvious reasons. Now the politically correct term is "Climate Change".

As in, "The climate is changing! We are all going to die! Buy your Indulgences, I mean Carbon Offsets, from my Carbon Offset company and give me all your money and power!"

Actually the climate is changing, it is different today than it was yesterday. And we are all going to die, some day. It's the last part I have a problem with.
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Old 12-30-2008, 03:44 PM   #18
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Oops... I made a mistake. You are correct, it was per year.

I got curious since my electric bill just arrived today and I'm at $900ish for the year. But electricity is relative cheap in Oregon... should probably compare by KWh.
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Did you check out this link on the ABC News sight?

ABC News: Ex-Bush Aides Say He Never Recovered From Katrina


I especially enjoyed this quote from Washington insider Lawrence Wilkerson:

"He became vice president well before George Bush picked him," Wilkerson said of Cheney. "And he began to manipulate things from that point on, knowing that he was going to be able to convince this guy to pick him, knowing that he was then going to be able to wade into the vacuums that existed around George Bush — personality vacuum, character vacuum, details vacuum, experience vacuum."

When he says "around" do you suppose he means "between the ears of"?
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Gee, the media being critical of President Bush? Now whomever would have thought that might happen?
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The problem here is not SUV's, it is unions and bad management that was greedy in its own right and without enough backbone to stand up to the unions. Non-union companies are doing just fine, some lost a little money, but no big deal in the times. There will always be trucks and SUVs, they just may not be union made.
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