Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 04-02-2008, 02:46 PM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
pcasa's Avatar
 
1966 17' Caravel
Dallas , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 96
Christopher Deam

I had the great fortune to hear Christopher Deam speak here in Dallas last Saturday. He was part of an Architectural Symposium featuring product design and architecture. Even though I've read the accounts of how he became both enamoured with and then part of the re-design of the AS interiors - it was very COOL to hear him speak with such passion and hear his personal account of the process. Even though I'm "vintage" I love those CCD interiors! If you ever get the chance, don't miss hearing him speak. paula
__________________

__________________
pcasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 03:45 PM   #2
Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
 
Minnie's Mate's Avatar
 
2006 30' Safari
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
Images: 7
IIRC< the CCD interior came from his design at a home show where he was highlighting the use of laminates in a vintage Airstream. Also, IIRC, his interest in Airstreams was an offshoot of his work with his brother in designing the interior of his 400 SF San Francisco apartment.
__________________

__________________
2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
http://streaminacrossamerica.com/
Minnie's Mate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 04:17 PM   #3
2 Rivet Member
 
pcasa's Avatar
 
1966 17' Caravel
Dallas , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 96
Mr. CCD himself ...

Yes, he discussed the Wilsonart project which became the prototype for the AS interior streamlining process - all of which I had rea about - but hearing the story directly was very inspiring.
__________________
pcasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 05:24 PM   #4
_
 
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
it would be fun to meet and listen to him or other designers in this area...

but they ALL steal madly from each other and almost NEVER reveal their true sources...

while giving credit to 'inspirations' and shared visions yadda yadda...

even b4 the wilsonart project was THIS brit thing...

i think he surely must have seen and knew about it too, given the awards and publication it received at the time....

and combined THAT look with the old sliding overhead lockers a/s thing...

we can thank 53flyingcloud (see post #13 and #23) for posting the link LONG ago (it no longer works)...

and at least one picture that is still here for us to enjoy...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f232...rstream-5.html

i've got a load of pics of this 90s project somewhere...

it's very cool, in an austin powers sans color way, baby!

cheers
2air'
__________________
all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 06:30 PM   #5
2 Rivet Member
 
pcasa's Avatar
 
1966 17' Caravel
Dallas , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 96
His primary vision was to bring the same modernity to the interiors that already existed on the exterior. I must admit I share this feeling that the wood interiors seem a disconnect to the slick aluminum skins. But, he said that AS at the time wanted to reflect a warm "mountain cabin" ambience on the inside - hence the warm woods and other choices.
__________________
pcasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 06:45 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
safari62's Avatar
 
1962 22' Safari
1957 22' Custom
Vacationland , Maine
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 922
Images: 43
Just to add another place to look and maybe hear C. Deam...there was an article on the Design Within Reach website and video of him talking about the design process and related Airstream inspiration. It was nice to hear him use his architectural speak to refer to the little houses on wheels. I do not remember him giving credit to the many modern designers and architects that have inspired some of his stylings but we all know who they are if one cares about such things.
These photos were taken at the "American Wanderlust" show at the Shelburne Museum in Vermont back in 2002 I think. It is the first modern prototype I Think...others may know more about it. Lots of speciality metals and special details not seen in the regular CCD's.

I like all the CCD editions and like the fact that Deam continues to modify it.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ccd #1 001.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	156.1 KB
ID:	57479   Click image for larger version

Name:	trailers 001.jpg
Views:	99
Size:	176.3 KB
ID:	57480  

Click image for larger version

Name:	ccd#1 001.jpg
Views:	94
Size:	131.9 KB
ID:	57481   Click image for larger version

Name:	ccd #1 002.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	164.1 KB
ID:	57482  

__________________
safari62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 08:02 PM   #7
Rivet Master
 
fotochop's Avatar
 
1969 23' Safari
New Orleans , Louisiana
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 699
Images: 18
I'm a fan of CCD's design, but my personal feeling is that David Winick's is much truer to the Airstream vibe. The CCD is beautiful, but in an Ikea store sort of way (my kitchen is mostly Ikea...I'm not dissing anyone, btw) whereas Winick's is just timeless like a classic small handmade sailboat. It seems much more hand-crafted and I get a bigger buzz from that whole vibe...but I'm a fool for vintage anyway... still, I'd love to hear Deam speak about the AS project(s)...
fotochop is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 09:15 PM   #8
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
 
bredlo's Avatar
 
1954 22' Safari
Deerfield , Illinois
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,419
Images: 23
Send a message via AIM to bredlo
Quote:
Originally Posted by safari62
Just to add another place to look and maybe hear C. Deam...there was an article on the Design Within Reach website and video of him talking about the design process and related Airstream inspiration.like all the CCD editions and like the fact that Deam continues to modify it.
I think Safari62 is referring to this video (this is the YouTube hosted version, no article)
YouTube - Dwell Design Leader: Christopher Deam
__________________
Brad
bredlo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 10:16 PM   #9
2 Rivet Member
 
pcasa's Avatar
 
1966 17' Caravel
Dallas , Texas
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 96
Fan of Winick too ....

I would LOVE to have a Winick interior! The '68 Caravel on the Vintage site is SPECTACULAR!
__________________
pcasa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2008, 10:17 PM   #10
Site Team
 
azflycaster's Avatar
 
1975 25' Tradewind
Dewey , Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,127
Images: 62
Blog Entries: 1
Christopher Deam is a forums member, but he has not been on the forums in a few years. His forums name is CCD. All of his posts are in this thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f48/...mbi-13867.html
His custom built 16' International CCD Bambi was stolen. To this day, it remains uncovered. I still keep an eye out for it.
__________________

Richard

Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
azflycaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2008, 10:05 AM   #11
Rivet Master
 
safari62's Avatar
 
1962 22' Safari
1957 22' Custom
Vacationland , Maine
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 922
Images: 43
something borrowed, something new

Quote:
Originally Posted by fotochop
I'm a fan of CCD's design, but my personal feeling is that David Winick's is much truer to the Airstream vibe. The CCD is beautiful, but in an Ikea store sort of way (my kitchen is mostly Ikea...I'm not dissing anyone, btw) whereas Winick's is just timeless like a classic small handmade sailboat. It seems much more hand-crafted and I get a bigger buzz from that whole vibe...but I'm a fool for vintage anyway... still, I'd love to hear Deam speak about the AS project(s)...
I would agree that Winick's contributions are true to the "vibe" of trailers up to the late fifties in his latest projects of the thirteen panel models. Excepting his first I believe being the 1965 Caravel remod that is classic mid sixties esthetic. The success of that being the use of high quality materals mixed with soft colors rememisent of that period. Winick has also borrowed those same ideas of the period interiors and applied higher levels of detail that was not allowed in the original production line units.

I believe Deam has been very successful bringing the modern Airstream interior to match the level of "the promise' of the exterior. It is modern and purpose built, but with some connection to the past, just like the exterior.
I think that was the direction the Argosy was going in at least in terms of the design. The expense of bringing all of the details to a higher level must have collided with the idea because of the cost factors.
But now people will spend 40K for a designer trailer....so it's all good!
__________________
safari62 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-03-2008, 04:38 PM   #12
Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
 
Minnie's Mate's Avatar
 
2006 30' Safari
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
Images: 7
I understand about the "cabin in the woods" look of the Classic, but the modern Safari line, the SE in particular, proves that you can have the warmth of wood in a modern package without the two being at odds with one another. IMHO, the SE kind of makes an 'east meets west' philosophy, figuratively speaking. The sleek modern meets the warm and cozy.
__________________

__________________
2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
http://streaminacrossamerica.com/
Minnie's Mate is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
2002 'Deam' Designed Airstream. Andy R Community Polls 48 04-23-2010 03:08 PM
a different kind of RV from Christopher Deam zoeb nj Off Topic Forum 20 10-13-2005 06:06 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.