Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-16-2009, 08:22 AM   #43
Moderator
 
moosetags's Avatar

 
2015 25' FB Flying Cloud
2012 23' FB Flying Cloud
2005 25' Safari
Santa Rosa Beach , Florida
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 10,763
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Journalist View Post
We don't need a retro SOB. What we need are a few Airstreams that are actually affordable.
A profound statement; I hope Airstream is watching.

Brian
__________________

__________________
SuEllyn & Brian McCabe
WBCCI #3628 -- AIR #14872 -- TAC #FL-7
2015 FC 25' FB (Lucy) with HAHA
2005 Suburban 2500 Quadrasteer (Olivia) & 2018 Silverado 2500 (Lillian)
moosetags is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 09:08 AM   #44
Rivet Master
 
mutcth's Avatar

 
2007 23' Safari SE
Central , Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,632
Quote:
Originally Posted by Journalist View Post
We don't need a retro SOB. What we need are a few Airstreams that are actually affordable.
I think it goes beyond that. After all, I could grab a lightly used 2008 17' Sport out of the classifieds for $20k.

We need livable floorplans with light weight. (Consider that Trailmanor now builds a $22k 24' FB trailer (with fixed walls) that weighs 2600 lbs - and lots of people seem to think that's expensive.) Other small trailers (including the AS Sport) manage dual holding tanks, unlike the Bambi 16' combo tank. And it would be nice to never have to worry about floor rot.

As mentioned above, the Scout has to be easier and faster to build than a riveted exterior, bringing the price down. If that's the sacrifice I have to make to get the things listed above at an affordable price, OK. As long as it's more attractive than the typical white box...too bad though you couldn't put that interior layout into something that looked like a Basecamp...
__________________

__________________
mutcth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 10:13 AM   #45
1972 Travelux Princess 25
 
Cobourg , Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,042
You don't kill your brand name by making lower priced models. You kill it by lowering quality.

It is a myth that Packard ruined themselves by making cheaper models. This myth was started by some Packard antique fans who thought the only good Packards were the prewar senior models, and never bought a new Packard in their lives. These people did nothing to support the Packard company.

Packard was not the only luxury car company to bring out cheaper mass produced models. So did Rolls Royce, Cadillac, Lincoln, Mercedes,and BMW.

How does this apply to Airstream? I don't know. From my (limited) knowledge of sales and marketing it seems that Thor should keep the Airstream as their premium or halo brand and support it if necessary by the sales of their cheaper brands. This is how GM kept Cadillac alive. All the surviving luxury car companies had the support of corporate mass produced models except Rolls Royce which depended on airplane engine sales.

Airstream should have some smaller, lower cost entry level models but not at the cost of lowering their standards. An Airstream should be something you move up to, just as car buyers start out with a Chev then move up to an Olds, Buick or Caddy.

Just what form the smaller Airstream should take is ultimately up to the customer who writes the checks. It's up to management to figure out what the public wants and will respond to.
__________________
Living in the trailer park of sense, looking out the window at a tornado of stupidity.
Ganaraska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 10:17 AM   #46
Rivet Master
 
Gene's Avatar
 
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction , Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 10,840
Ganaraska, your version of the Packard story makes sense to me. I always suspected the story was a myth. Come to think of it my father told me that story 50 years ago, so father doesn't know best.

Gene
__________________
Gene is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 10:54 AM   #47
Rivet Master
 
mandolindave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,116
Images: 4
I think it was cost accounting that killed Packard

They were loosing a nickel on every car sold.
__________________
mandolindave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 10:59 AM   #48
Rivet Master
 
53flyingcloud's Avatar
 
1984 29' Sovereign
Savannah , Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,458
Images: 17
Blog Entries: 1
WE need to stay on the original thread...Cheap as that may sound
"Just my Packard nickels worth.."
__________________
WBCCI 5292 AIR 807
NEU #64
New England Unit
53flyingcloud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 03:38 PM   #49
Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
 
Minnie's Mate's Avatar
 
2006 30' Safari
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
Images: 7
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjagnew View Post
However, what is REALLY cool is the picture of the retro fiberglass trailer that Jim Clark posted. What is it?
That was the Holiday House Geographic. There were only a handful made in 1961 and were supposed to be the most luxurious and, perhaps, the most expensive travel trailer on the market. The one in Jim's photo is the only known surviving example and was just recently restored. It has a full bath, two gaucho type double beds, a fridge and four burner fold down stove. The entire interior is teak and is really beautiful inside.

There is a link in one of the post that follows Jim's post that links to the story of the trailer and its resurrection.
__________________
2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
http://streaminacrossamerica.com/
Minnie's Mate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-16-2009, 06:43 PM   #50
Rivet Master
 
Jim Clark's Avatar
 
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans , Louisiana
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,077
Images: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjagnew View Post
I think it's a clever trailer with some nice design elements; nice to see the AS designers branch out a bit. However, what is REALLY cool is the picture of the retro fiberglass trailer that Jim Clark posted. What is it?

Ganaraska posted the link for me to take a look at the history.

Here it is:Page 1

This is the site I found it at, the owner is the admin, the site is worth a look.

Molded Lightweight Fiberglass Travel Trailers
__________________
Jim N5TJZ Air# 174
2012 International Serenity 28
2005 Safari 25 SS Traded
1968 Globetrotter Sold
2011 F150 Ecoboost
Jim Clark is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2009, 03:42 PM   #51
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
Grand Rapids , 49505
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 15
I would buy a trailer like the Scout if it was priced reasonably. IMO, that would be something in the $12k-$18k range.

Keep in mind that "canned ham" is back. Both the Scotty and Shasta name plates are on dealer lots again. Although, from what I've seen of the new Shasta models, they're not that great. I think the entry level Shasta has an SRP of $18k. It has a fiberglass skin and fairly cheap interior finishes, like an electric only range and refrigerator . How it ends up retailing for that price is beyond me.
__________________
Scotty C is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2009, 04:24 PM   #52
2 Rivet Member
 
OnSafari's Avatar
 
2008 16' Safari
Trabuco Canyon , California
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 60
Images: 6
It's very similar to the TAB with a bigger tv, fridge and a bathroom. I think it's a good fit for the small nostalgic trailer market (TAB, Little Guy, etc.).
__________________
Mike & Tricia
2008 Safari Sport 17'
OnSafari is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2009, 07:53 PM   #53
Rivet Master
 
Journalist's Avatar
 
1969 25' Tradewind
Irmo , South Carolina
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 744
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty C View Post
I would buy a trailer like the Scout if it was priced reasonably. IMO, that would be something in the $12k-$18k range.
Look at the price Airstream stuck on the BaseCamp. No way it would sell that cheap.
__________________
AIR #8891
Unrestored 1969 25' Tradewind
Overkill Tow Vehicle of the Year Award:
2001 GMC 3500 4x4 Dually 6.6L Duramax
Journalist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2010, 11:02 PM   #54
1 Rivet Member
 
Currently Looking...
la mesa , California
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 17
Scout Prototype ?

Any recent news on the Airstream Scout ?
__________________

__________________
redwords is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Any more info on the Scout? airbassador Airstream Lifestyle 4 02-09-2009 04:11 PM
New Airstream Prototype? Al - K4GLU Airstream Trailer Forums 3 10-19-2008 04:03 PM
Airstream Caravel with Intl Scout Image sunnyhillfarm 1965 Caravel 9 11-05-2006 07:33 PM
New A/S Prototype Tow Vehicle Creampuff 1966 - 1968 Safari 3 11-11-2003 09:09 PM
Early Prototype Motor Home BobbyW Off Topic Forum 4 10-27-2002 09:04 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.