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Old 04-15-2008, 11:46 AM   #29
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One additional bit of concern I have though (which I know is unsolicited), is why are you towing a 30'+ Airstream with that vehicle. Say it ain't so. Putting bikes on your Airstream's bumper are the least of your worries IMHO.

Well I am saying it is so. What is you're problem with my tow vehicle? Our Q is very well able to handle the Excella as we have towed it over the Vail Pass (11,663' elevation) a few times and been up and down the coast of California with no problems. I might also add we did it in extreme comfort.

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75 sovereign tail seperation

I just read all the articles on why not to place a bike rack on the rear of camper (Tail seperation could happen).Is anyone out there that has actually done a repair on tail seperation??? Looking for repair ideas. Thanks Sincerely, Mark
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They make expensive lightweight bikes that you can lift with 1 finger, they should not hurt anything.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:24 PM   #33
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I just read all the articles on why not to place a bike rack on the rear of camper (Tail seperation could happen).Is anyone out there that has actually done a repair on tail seperation??? Looking for repair ideas. Thanks Sincerely, Mark
We have done hundreds of them over time.

What would you like to know?

Is it expensive to fix??? Very.

Can you fix it yourself?? Yes, if you know how.

It's the moment arm, that's the killer.

Light weight bikes?? Sure.

Light weight, say 50 pounds???

Not so. With the moment arm on your 31 foot Airstream, that 50 pounds, now becomes close to 600 pounds, sitting still. Hit a bump, and it multiplies, several times over.

Now your up to a ton or better.

Light weight bikes?? Not so.

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Old 01-18-2010, 09:07 PM   #34
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I am looking for a 2 bike rack that will mount to the rear storage bumper of my 1989 32' Excella. Can anyone recomend one and how to mount? Has anyone had any problems with mounting/trailering this way?
I have installed a Reese tow hitch receiver to the rear of my coach under the bumper. I had to purchase 2 extension mid section pieces to span the gap between the mounting brackets due to the wide space between the attachment points. I drilled into the steel frame not the bumper. I have had no real problems with exceptions of the low clearance. I have to be very careful going up and down curb aprons by cutting diagonal across them but sometimes still scrape the hitch assembly. If I had to do it again I would not. I have slightly buckled the bottoms of both aluminum curved sections just above the gray frame section. The buckled sections bugged me so bad I fabricated curved appliques out of aluminum diamond plate to cover them. Funny thing is everyone comments on how good the diamond plates look and want to know where they can buy them. When I carry the bikes I make sure and use as many tie downs as possible to minimize bouncing. So far I see no sagging or any other structural effect as a result but that may mean nothing. I only carry 2 bikes since it just my wife and I

I bought my coach to fulfill my camping requirements and carrying bikes is one of them. I see bike racks mounted to much flimsier rigs in much the same way. Now if the frame of an Airstream can't hold up 50lbs of bikes then there is something wrong.
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I bought my coach to fulfill my camping requirements and carrying bikes is one of them. I see bike racks mounted to much flimsier rigs in much the same way. Now if the frame of an Airstream can't hold up 50lbs of bikes then there is something wrong.
Your right, about the something wrong.

Airstream frames are weak compared to SOB's.

The Airstream frame, "DOES NOT" hold anything up.

The shell does the work.

Therefore the frame wants to pull away from the shell, and eventually will, when you place an additional load on the bumper.

Remember, the moment arm, is in effect when you place weight on the bumper, or at the rear of the frame. See post # 33 above.

The fix, is not what you did, but adding additonal holding strength between the shell and frame.

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I just read all the articles on why not to place a bike rack on the rear of camper (Tail seperation could happen).Is anyone out there that has actually done a repair on tail seperation??? Looking for repair ideas. Thanks Sincerely, Mark

Hi Mark,

If you were looking for information on how to repair "rear end frame separation" I would refer you to Tom Patterson's web site. He has various Airstream documents online, including the info from the factory on this matter.

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Question??? Sounds like the rear seperation tends to happen to older longer models, can we with a 2005 - 22' Safari haul bike on the back???
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Question??? Sounds like the rear seperation tends to happen to older longer models, can we with a 2005 - 22' Safari haul bike on the back???
Same problem, different year.

I would say no, but it's your choice and money, if your wrong.

Airstream say no.

What is the moment arm you would have?

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Your right, about the something wrong.

Airstream frames are weak compared to SOB's.

The Airstream frame, "DOES NOT" hold anything up.

The shell does the work.

Therefore the frame wants to pull away from the shell, and eventually will, when you place an additional load on the bumper.

Remember, the moment arm, is in effect when you place weight on the bumper, or at the rear of the frame. See post # 33 above.

The fix, is not what you did, but adding additonal holding strength between the shell and frame.

Andy

Thanks Andy. Maybe I should have bought the Big Foot I liiked at instead of the AS. It seems the more I read about AS the more disapointed I become.
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Thanks Andy. Maybe I should have bought the Big Foot I liiked at instead of the AS. It seems the more I read about AS the more disapointed I become.
Please don't be disappointed.

In some respects, an Airstream is like an aircraft.

Many things you can do, with them, and some things, well, don't even go there.

An Airstream is like many other things in life, as it has it's learning curve, too.

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devils advocate question

While at Sutton's RV in Eugene, OR, I saw a 34 foot AS, that was a toy hauler. So, what did the factory do to the weak AS frame so as to be able to haul a smart car inside-Behind the rear axle+ all the weight of the opening clam shell rear door? just askin'
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While at Sutton's RV in Eugene, OR, I saw a 34 foot AS, that was a toy hauler. So, what did the factory do to the weak AS frame so as to be able to haul a smart car inside-Behind the rear axle+ all the weight of the opening clam shell rear door? just askin'
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Not the same chassis, nor is the slide out models, the same chassis.

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