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12-05-2006, 06:43 PM
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
Two of us have read the instructions that come with the set.
No where does it say anything about a limited useof the camera or monitor.
If it doesn't specifically spell out a limited use, then logic would say there is none.
I will run one again, but this time for at least one week, non-stop.
I will report back the results.
Andy
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Andy- You are correct the directions which came with the unit do not say not to connect in any other fashion, but are very, very specific to only connect to your back-up lighting wire. As I have now mentioned twice, when you go to RoadMaster's website to the FAQ section as I inserted in the above post, any other wiring of the unit will void the warranty. PLEASE go to the manufacturors website for your self. Hey, if I could just hook the darn thing up to the plate wire and let it run all the time and not have to worry about what the company that makes the thing says my life is easier and my wiring project complete!
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12-05-2006, 07:08 PM
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AIR #8691
2006 25' Safari SS SE
Northern
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Very interesting. I saw it yesterday at COSTCO for $89.xx, but didn't buy it I guess because I'm not an impulse buyer. But now after reading about it here, I just might get one.
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12-05-2006, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Originally Posted by rickandsandi
Andy- You are correct the directions which came with the unit do not say not to connect in any other fashion, but are very, very specific to only connect to your back-up lighting wire. As I have now mentioned twice, when you go to RoadMaster's website to the FAQ section as I inserted in the above post, any other wiring of the unit will void the warranty. PLEASE go to the manufacturors website for your self. Hey, if I could just hook the darn thing up to the plate wire and let it run all the time and not have to worry about what the company that makes the thing says my life is easier and my wiring project complete!
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I have the camera under test as of about an hour ago. I will run it continuous for one week.
I will keep you posted.
Andy
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12-05-2006, 07:25 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 28' International
Currently Looking...
New Orleans
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It is no fun unless you void the warranty.
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Originally Posted by rickandsandi
Hello Jim- OK, I am really confussed. According to RoadMaster, unit is not to be left on for any long period of time, camera will over-heat. Other than wiring the camera unit into your back-up lighting wire warranty will be void. I have been playing with the unit in our car and we get a pretty good picture from inside but when mounted outside the picture is improved. I have a little switch on the camera power line right now while I play around with it. My goal is to connect it to the back of our Safari for an extra set of eyes when backing into those small SP sites. Hence my call for help in trying to figure out wether there is a back-up light wire in the tail light harness of my Safari. If anyone has any ideas on that I would appreciate hearing from you. I had also memtioned to Andy the warranty concerns after his comments of hooking the camera up to your parking lights, which would also void the warranty. If I can not find the wire in the Safari I might have to be happy with it just mounted on my TV for hitching up.
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No confusion here. I don’t care about the warranty. I have soldered a cigarette lighter plug onto the camera and plug it into the socket inside the trailer pointing the camera out the back window. I plan to cut the ears off of the camera and put Velcro on the little square cube and move it around. Mount in the back window of the trailer when on the road, mount on the trailer looking at the truck hitch when hitching. I will grab power from the batteries on the tongue of the trailer. Use it for it a security camera at night. I might even make a little battery pack and put in a tree looking at a birds nest. If I find the signal to weak I will open the camera and maybe the receive and analyze the antenna system and may rework it. If the camera runs hot I will add a heat sink, see no confusion. Remember warranties are made to be voided.
Jim
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12-05-2006, 07:50 PM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Hey Rick
Yes , mine is the color , 4 control unit......$50
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12-06-2006, 04:35 AM
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#46
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by Jim Clark
No confusion here. I don’t care about the warranty. I have soldered a cigarette lighter plug onto the camera and plug it into the socket inside the trailer pointing the camera out the back window. I plan to cut the ears off of the camera and put Velcro on the little square cube and move it around. Mount in the back window of the trailer when on the road, mount on the trailer looking at the truck hitch when hitching. I will grab power from the batteries on the tongue of the trailer. Use it for it a security camera at night. I might even make a little battery pack and put in a tree looking at a birds nest. If I find the signal to weak I will open the camera and maybe the receive and analyze the antenna system and may rework it. If the camera runs hot I will add a heat sink, see no confusion. Remember warranties are made to be voided.
Jim
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Hello Jim! Sounds like you have a plan. Perhaps you can offer an after-market adaptor kit! Maybe I am just being too careful, but $100 is a $100! If you can in fact get them at Wal*Mart for $50, I would run out and get another one. We have two Wal*Marts in are area but they are small, always messy, never have anything and no one speaks English. I wonder where the nearest Super Store is?
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12-06-2006, 04:36 AM
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
I have the camera under test as of about an hour ago. I will run it continuous for one week.
I will keep you posted.
Andy
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Andy- This will be interesting.
Rick
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12-06-2006, 05:02 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 19' Bambi
Ottawa
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Has anyone tried this unit on the back of an Airstream to see if the signal is strong enough?
What are the 2 extra controls that are on some units? (some have 2 buttons, some have 4).
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12-06-2006, 06:57 AM
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
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Quote:
Originally Posted by campadk
Has anyone tried this unit on the back of an Airstream to see if the signal is strong enough?
What are the 2 extra controls that are on some units? (some have 2 buttons, some have 4).
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Good morning-
I have been playing with this thing for the past several days and on the back of our 22' Safari there is no problem at all with the signal. The unit with four buttons which is the one most of us have been discussing does the four following functions; ON/Off; change orientation of image on display; contrast; brightness.
Right now E-Trailer is having a sale, buy two for $98.00 each.
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12-06-2006, 12:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2006 28' Safari SE
Halifax
, Nova Scotia, CANADA
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Check out this before you waste any money on this piece of crap
http://www.trailerlife.com/cforum/in...7.cfm#18626027
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If you need to turn on your air conditioner,you've gone too far south!
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Hensley Arrow , Honda EU2000i (propane),
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3-stage smart charger, Xantrex battery monitor,
Sirius satelite radio
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12-06-2006, 02:10 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 24' Argosy 24
Woodinville
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Heat will definitely shorten the life of any electronics. If the unit is mount outside and has good airflow then this may never be a problem. Might be a problem only in the summer. Some units may last a year and some less than a week. However, with the manufacturers caution you can be sure that it is not designed for constant use. Sort of like trailer tires. You can ignore the manufacturers recommendations and you might never have a problem... then again "Ask yourself, do you feel luckey?"
Since web cams don't seem to have a heat problem with constant use I can only assume the trouble with this unit comes from a combination of the transmitter, the voltage transformer (12VDC to ??) and the fact it's all nicely sealed into a small package.
Range is going to be effected by how much shielding is between the transmitter and reciever. Metal is pretty effective at blocking radio waves. The transmit and recieve antenas are also going to be directional. Inside the trailer sounds like a good option. No airflow but since it wouldn't need to be weather tight maybe the case can be vented. What I've found is that no airflow is no good but that you don't need a lot to make a lot of difference.
-Bernie
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12-06-2006, 02:38 PM
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#52
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Always Airstreaming!
2005 22' Safari
1960 24' Tradewind
Anytown
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Who do we believe?
> V R3 wireless backup camera
Vancouver, Wa
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Posted: 11/07/06 07:05pm Link | Quote | Print | Notify Moderator I see Costco is selling these for 89.95. Has anyone used one of these on their FW? They look pretty neat but afraid that the distance from camera to monitor would be to great to get a signal.
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Posted: 11/07/06 08:07pm Link | Quote | Print | Notify Moderator Your question got me searching, I found it! They are made by Roadmaster, a discount auto electronic mnfg. The answer to your question is "25-30ft under optimal conditions. See the FAQ web page at FAQ answer
I knew it was to good to be true. Oh they are also sold at wallyword.
I could be wrong, your mileage may vary
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Posted: 11/07/06 10:26pm Link | Quote | Print | Notify Moderator rollexx wrote:
I see Costco is selling these for 89.95. Has anyone used one of these on their FW? They look pretty neat but afraid that the distance from camera to monitor would be to great to get a signal.
Pure junk! No auto adjust for bright light conditions. My buddy and I both had units that went bad shortly after we purchased them. The mfgr. told both of us the camera is not designed for constant use, only occassional. Which means the reliability is horrible and failures start happening after 10s of hours...
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Posted: 11/08/06 06:14am Link | Quote | Print | Notify Moderator BOught 2, returned them. They didn't have enough range to reach the back of my trailer. Actually, they didn't have enough range to reach the back of my truck.
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You can tow a train with your teeth, but you shouldn't.
Well, se certainly have seen a complete range of opinions on this one haven't we? From Andy saying leave it on forever, no problem, to people claiming it pure junk, won't last 10 hours. So gentlemen, where do we go from here? I thought this was going to be simple!
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12-06-2006, 04:07 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Well, se certainly have seen a complete range of opinions on this one haven't we? From Andy saying leave it on forever, no problem, to people claiming it pure junk, won't last 10 hours. So gentlemen, where do we go from here? I thought this was going to be simple!
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Test report.
Camera is 55 feet away from the monitor, inside a tilt up building. The signal must go through at least three walls and a ceiling.
The reception is very good even at that distance.
This unit has been on for 22 hours with a voltage of 13.5 volts.
The camera has been examined with an infra red thermometer. It's temperature is 17 degrees above the ambient of 70 degrees.
Photo attached.
Andy
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12-06-2006, 04:41 PM
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Rivet Master
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I think these cameras would be great for checking when the warehouse crew goes on their smoke breaks.
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12-08-2006, 05:10 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Camera update
Camera has been on for 72 continuous hours.
Camera temperature without any heat sink, is 18 degrees above ambient.
The monitor has been on for the same number of hours.
Ambient is averaging 75 degrees.
Andy
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12-11-2006, 11:39 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Camera Update # 2
The camera and monitor has been on continuously for 137 hours.
The input voltage at the camera is 13.5 volts DC.
The camera is holding at 18 degrees above the ambient.
This is certainly a much longer "on time" than anyone could possibly use.
Our initial inventory "is gone."
More on the way.
Andy
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12-11-2006, 01:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1977 24' Argosy 24
Inverness
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Well I guess the ones Andy sells are a better quality that walmart & costco or other places.you get what you pay for.
Bob
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12-13-2006, 04:13 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Final test results.
We now have had the camera and monitor on test for 190 continuous hours.
Supply voltage is 13.5 volts DC.
The camera and monitor are performing as well as they did when first turned on.
This then concludes our testing.
We intend to continue selling them as the tests have proved more than satisfactory.
Makes a great Christmas present.
Andy
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12-13-2006, 04:45 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
We now have had the camera and monitor on test for 190 continuous hours.
Supply voltage is 13.5 volts DC.
The camera and monitor are performing as well as they did when first turned on.
This then concludes our testing.
We intend to continue selling them as the tests have proved more than satisfactory.
Makes a great Christmas present.
Andy
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As a matter of interest, for those that do not have "back up radar," you can also install that system on your tow vehicle or family car.
Andy
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04-13-2007, 10:16 AM
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Rivet Master
Join Date: Mar 2003
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Update
I just saw the wireless camera unit in question, for sale at an auto part store for $169.95. And I saw it on a daytime talk show segment, featuring hot new gadgets.
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