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Old 11-30-2008, 10:47 AM   #15
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Today I wrote several California based WBCC contacts. Hopefully this will get some information flowing again. I have heard from the 11th Armored Division Association. They confirm that Lt. Col Frederick Hearn did get promoted to Colonel. I still need to confirm that this is the one and the same who appears to have owned our Safari. Depending on the responses from California, it looks like a title search will make a lot of sense as well.
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Old 01-23-2009, 10:28 AM   #16
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It has been some time since I posted on this thread, but I have been trying to make progress on my history search. I have been in contact with the Long Beach Unit of the WBCCI. They are a consolidation of several former WBCCI units in the area. They have forwarded a letter that I sent to all of their current members. I am hopeful, but so far no one seems to have known the Hearn's. I believe time is my enemy here. If I were starting this search 5, 10, 15...years before, I would be more likely to find a member who knew them. Also, I understand the documents and pictures of the WBCCI units that now make up the Long Beach unit have been spread out among former members. This makes finding a picture or document or anything of #11736 very difficult to track down. I have not given up the search, although certainly it has not gotten any easier! I am still open and thankful for any and all ideas.

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Old 02-07-2009, 09:26 AM   #17
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Thanks to Dwightdi I now know that the Hearn's were members as early as '65. So it has now been confirmed that they appear in the '65, '68 and '70 directories, but not '82. Based on their number of #11736, it looks like '65 was the first year they were members. The search continues.
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Hi Tim,
I googled "fred hearn" and found a different, or earlier version of the same Col Hearn you mention. Even the same middle initial. This guy was ground crew chief for an aircraft. check this out. On the link there's a menu on the left with a link for personnel, with a little more info about Sgt. Hearn.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:27 AM   #19
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Hi Tim,
I googled "fred hearn" and found a different, or earlier version of the same Col Hearn you mention. Even the same middle initial. This guy was ground crew chief for an aircraft. check this out. On the link there's a menu on the left with a link for personnel, with a little more info about Sgt. Hearn.
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I guess it is remotely possible that they are the same person (Fred K Hearn), but it looks like they are two different people. All I have linking any Fred K Hearn to this Airstream is the letter that I found, but it does not definitively link him as the owner of our Safari. This morning I found the California DMV form that I need to confirm who the owner of our Safari was. I picked the "as of" date 1/1/1966. The reason that I picked this date is the WBCCI directories show the Hearn's are attached to #11736 in years 1965, 1967, 1970, 1971 but not 1973. If the CA DMV confirms the owners as the Hearn's in San Pedro, CA on 1/1/1966, then I know we have in fact confirmed the original owner's of our Safari was in fact them. Then I still need to confirm exactly which Fred K. Hearn owned our unit. I only know that it is a Colonel as that is how the WBCCI has him listed. For now, I wait a few weeks for the California DMV to get back to me via snail mail.
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Smile I'm Fred and Mary Hearn's Niece

Yes, the Fred Hearn you are looking for is in the picture as Colonel Frederick K. Hearn. He had that Airstream! He drove it cross country from San Pedro every summer with Aunt Mary to visit us in NJ when I was a little girl.

When I grew up and got married, my husband and I used our wedding present money to by a Bambi airstream for our honeymoon.

I can put you in touch with his daughter who still lives in San Pedro.

PM me.

Congratulations on your detective work. Uncle Fred was in Army Intelligence and he would love that you sleuthed this information.
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Hey! That's excellent news.

Welcome to the forum Lynnef.

I know Tim will be excited to hear from you.

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Wow...
What a great ending to a great story!!
Perseverence does pay off Tim. My detective work has come quite close for me too, but as of yet, i have not hit the "Mother Lode".

Kinda surprised too, being involved with this forum, and the WBCCI and the Airstream Community like i am.... but one day.....

Quick summation here... I guess i come by the title of "Airstream Brat" pretty honestly, Got indoctrinated at the tender age of 8, back on Thanksgiving Day, 1968. That was the day Grandpa Anderson brought home the brand spanking new 1969 23' Safari Twin for us all to ooh and aah over. That next summer, i was asked to join my Grandparents on a month long trip of the upper Great Lakes... A "shakedown" of sorts... Well, i took to traveling, and the Airstream life just like a fish to water, and that summer began a yearly routine of traveling every year with them until i turned 15.

We attended several Michigan Unit rallies, and caravanned to four or five International Rallies during those years... I have vivid recollections of those days, with many pictures, slides and diaries to recall those wonderful carefree times.

But alas, real life does set in, and my Grandfather got sick in '73, during the WBCCI Bozeman Rally, and it began a bout with lung and respiratory problems that plagued him the rest of his life. I think 1975 was our last Rally, at Notre Dame University, South Bend, IN. They also wintered every year in Pompano Beach, FL in an awesome park inhabited by several Airtreamers. That winter of 75 was their last year in Fla too.

Sadly and reluctantly, Gramps sold his beloved Airstream in the spring of 1976. Even tho he really didn't let on, i know it broke his heart. Charles D Anderson passed away in April of 1978. And i still think about him and those great days often.
Throughout the 80s and 90s i put the whole Airstream thing on the back burner, but in the early part of this new Millenium, i kinda got the "fever" again, with the advent of the explosion of the internet and all these cool Airstream related sites. I remember posting here, and a few other forums that i was searching for Gramps old Safari, and i recieved many encouraging words and suggestions but all to no real avail. Fast forward to the early spring of 2006. I found a '69 23 Safari on ebay, down in WPB, Fla that was so identical to Gramps, i swore it hadta be the one. Not until the owner found the manuals and a few reciepts in one of the drawers did we confirm it was not their trailer, but strangely enough it did come originally from here in Michigan, near Flint.

I struck a deal with this gentleman and the trailer was mine, and over the course of the next month, it made its way up north here, back to Michigan. On the way home from Indy, where i picked it up from the friend of a friend of the owner, i just HADTA stop in Jackson Center. The last time i was there was the Homecoming in 2004?? I then made my way down the street to WBCCI HQ, (after spending a small fortune on parts from the Wally Byam Store) And i inquired about the availability of Gramps' old WBCCI numbers. Guess 22425 was still taken, but 22426 was available. So it seemed only fitting i take the next succeeding number.

Well, little by little i have addressed several issues with this beloved little Safari.... even tho it's not THE trailer, the similarities are so stunning, and even the "smell" of that plastic inside... the feeling of "deja vu" is just indescribable. Its like an old friend has come home...full circle. My kids and i are enjoying the trailer and i want them to experience a sample of the great times i had with my Grandparents so many years ago.

But every now and then, i will see a 69 Safari advertised locally.... and i have called and inquired about every one. there are only a few listed in the WBCCI Directory. Maybe, one day, if the planets and the moons are aligned just right, that elusive #22425 might cross paths with me once again.

I have scoured the Mich DMV, title searches, run the whole gamut, and so far, no luck. One day, maybe my luck will turn around!! Unfortunately, all the registrations and paperwork were disposed of many yrs ago, so i don't even have his original VIN number to reference.

Notice the two attached pictures below.... The first one was taken in the late fall of 68.... that's me, sitting on the back bumper of Gramps new Airstream. the second pic I snapped a couple years ago, it is my own son, sitting on the back bumper of our own 69 Safari. Notice the license plates. Yup, the same. I do have a box of old plates from Gramps garage, and lo and behold, there was his 69 Michigan Trailer plate in the box! And it is now licensed and registered here in Michigan as an "antique trailer coach" with the same plate as on his own Safari way back in the old days!!!

Thanks for bearing with me with all these old recollections.....

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What Fantastic News!

This makes my day! I am traveling on business, so I am limited in my time and response. I have of course dropped you a PM, and I look forward to connecting further, and being in touch with the Hearn's daughter. This is amazing and great news!


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Yes, the Fred Hearn you are looking for is in the picture as Colonel Frederick K. Hearn. He had that Airstream! He drove it cross country from San Pedro every summer with Aunt Mary to visit us in NJ when I was a little girl.

When I grew up and got married, my husband and I used our wedding present money to by a Bambi airstream for our honeymoon.

I can put you in touch with his daughter who still lives in San Pedro.

PM me.

Congratulations on your detective work. Uncle Fred was in Army Intelligence and he would love that you sleuthed this information.
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Old 12-16-2010, 06:04 AM   #24
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WBCCI #11736 Again Issued to Assumed Original '64 Safari

Last evening I received confirmation that #11736 is now my WBCCI membership number. I wanted to post again on this thread, as the number is believed to have been May's WBCCI number back in the mid to late 60's. Unfortunately I do not have 100% confirmation that May was the original bearer of #11736. The State of California DOT was of no help. This thread covers the history as I believe it to be, and certainly there is 90%+ certainty that May was #11736. I still hope to one day fully connect with one of the Hearn decedents, and confirm that May is in fact the original #11736. Regardless or until that time, I believe the Hearn's number will be a good number to "reuse", and so #11736 for May it is.
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Great News!!!!

My only suggestion henceforth from here would be to inquire with the WBCCI and have someone look up that number from those years in the Directory. That should be proof enough.

I have been absent from this forum for quite awhile now, but as of September of this year, pulled my '69 23' Safari Twin out of storage in that old musty warehouse, after it's nearly three year nap, and actually cleaned it up and got a few weekends of use out of it this fall. I fully intend on going back into "full use" mode next spring!

Regarding WBCCI numbers i have had an interesting development myself.... I was told recently by the WBCCI staff that a long time Airstreamer that had my Grandfather's original number (#22425) for over 20 years, had sold the unit and had written the WBCCI and officially surrendered the number back into the "pool" as it were.
This number was not available back in the summer of 2006 when i purchased my 23' Safari, so i settled on the next consecutive number from my Grandparents. So, since 2006, i have been assigned #22426. Now i am at a quandary as to if i should "grab" my Grandfather's original number and change it to his.

Hmmm...decisions, decisions.....

Hope everyone has an awesome Holiday season this year!!!

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Scott,

Good to hear from you again. Go ahead and grab your grandfather's number, it does mean something to you.

Hope you solved your problems on the Lincoln.

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Great News!!!!

My only suggestion henceforth from here would be to inquire with the WBCCI and have someone look up that number from those years in the Directory. That should be proof enough.

I have been absent from this forum for quite awhile now, but as of September of this year, pulled my '69 23' Safari Twin out of storage in that old musty warehouse, after it's nearly three year nap, and actually cleaned it up and got a few weekends of use out of it this fall. I fully intend on going back into "full use" mode next spring!

Regarding WBCCI numbers i have had an interesting development myself.... I was told recently by the WBCCI staff that a long time Airstreamer that had my Grandfather's original number (#22425) for over 20 years, had sold the unit and had written the WBCCI and officially surrendered the number back into the "pool" as it were.
This number was not available back in the summer of 2006 when i purchased my 23' Safari, so i settled on the next consecutive number from my Grandparents. So, since 2006, i have been assigned #22426. Now i am at a quandary as to if i should "grab" my Grandfather's original number and change it to his.

Hmmm...decisions, decisions.....

Hope everyone has an awesome Holiday season this year!!!

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My only suggestion henceforth from here would be to inquire with the WBCCI and have someone look up that number from those years in the Directory. That should be proof enough.


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What I cannot prove is my Safari's (May's) serial number with the Hearn's WBCCI membership. All I have is the original letter that I found written to the Hearn's, but a letter in a trailer does not mean I have their trailer. All I have is circumstantial evidence, including the fact that my trailer is California built, and the AAA Tag on the back of the trailer is from AAA of California.

WBCCI #11736 was for sure their membership number, I just need to know what the serial number of their trailer was. In today's world, the WBCCI does ask for the serial number when you apply for membership. Can the VAC or WBCCI tell me what serial number was assigned to the trailer the Hearn's had?
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Good to hear from you again as well Bill.... Yeah i remember several conversations regarding my overheating problem with the Lincoln. Since the Airstream had been put away from 11/07 til Aug of this year, the Lincoln had been stashed as well.... It got dug out, cleaned up and I decided one day after the first trip to try a few more things, and put a correct three row radiator in it, as it should have had, instead of a 400 2 row rad. And i installed a transmission cooler as well. Unfortunately i have not taken the trailer or car on any good long hikes with any good pulls since then but i am most confident that this should greatly improve my cooling capabilities. Next summer we will start out bright and early in the season with the Airstreaming!!!
Hope all is well with you out there in paradise!!!!

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