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05-24-2010, 08:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 20
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1964 Airstream Safari Project
So here it is. Picked it up a couple weeks ago.
Outside skin seems pretty good, took photos of problem spots.
Plan to do all the standard stuff for a trailer of this age.
Would love to have it usable (not complete) in 1 year.
Think I will pretty much stick to original floorplan but I have some ideas for modifications. I will draw a picture and ask for feedback.
I think the PO used the bathroom to bath in old spice, its pretty strong in there right now. Dont know why anyone would paint a toilet. That is just bizarre.
I have touched base with some of you on my other threads, thanks for the input so far, and keep it coming. I am finishing some work on my home addition, and helping some family caught in the nashville flood.
Plan to start by removing interior cabinets (try to keep intact for templates) and lower interior skin sections and get this floor out of here to see whats under it. Hopefully can do a "shell on" type restoration to save on space.
Matt
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05-24-2010, 10:34 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Overall she looks pretty good! I've never, ever actually seen a regular home toilet in an RV before! Was she directly connected to city water and sewer before? I can't imagine a regular toilet using a black tank, although weird things have been known to happen... Anyway, if you plan on camping in her, you should replace that with an RV toilet. Hopefully that's on your list already.
Keep us posted on progress!!
Chris
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05-24-2010, 11:19 AM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' International
Savage
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 753
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Matt:
Per my PM last week, welcome to the '64 club! The "mess" above your front window looks farmiliar. The front and rear window design for keeping water out of the top of the window on these trailers was suspect. I am working on that very item right now on mine. Your interior is clearly in better shape than mine, and that is good to see!
We have many fellow '64 Safari owners on these Forums. Let us know how we can help!
-Tim
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05-24-2010, 08:15 PM
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Hey Matt,
Looks like it has good bones. Sure there's plenty to be done but it sounds like you're up to the task. Sure do love the look of those huge jalousie windows
Kevin
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05-24-2010, 08:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 24' Tradewind
Oxford,
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
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Looks pretty good. Good luck with the project.
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05-24-2010, 10:12 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Yup
the mess above the front window is familiar got mine looking better (not good just better). Added a couple of pics so you know your not alone in the gook removal dept.
Anyway nice looking old girl.
Kevin
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05-24-2010, 10:21 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1959 17' Pacer
Vintage Kin Owner
holly springs
, Georgia
Join Date: Aug 2009
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Try pics again
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05-25-2010, 07:10 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 20
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I am a sucker for a jalousie window. Had to have one.
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05-25-2010, 08:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 20
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Here are some questions:
1) Does anybody have opinions about trying to salvage some of the appliances? I know the oven/stove should work, and the fridge works on 110v. I did not buy it from the real PO, but a guy that flipped it in between, so he had hardly any knowledge. I got the original manual. TS8501 what do you think, I read your systems check section and it sounded like you scrapped most of yours anyway. I am considering doing a systems check, but to be honest am a bit scared about gas lines and old gas appliances. Kind of freaks me out.
2) Anybody try bunks in a safari? Just a thought. Where the sofa bed is mid-ship across from the kitchen. Could do a bunk bed and use the upper for storage with a net when not in use as a bunk. Probably dont plan to do this in interest of keepng mostly original, but a thought. I have 3 boys. Would love to see pictures and design if anyone has done this or similar.
3) Other added bed option. When I use this to go to the beach and many other places we will have power and a bath-house. In this instance I plan to use them and not deal with shower/toilet in RV. However, I would like to keep the shower/toilet for boon-docking. I was thinking about rigging a system where there is a platform that lays across the shower tub, over the new toilet (can be inset to same elevation), and extends to the drivers side wall which currently has a closet. I Would lose the rearmost closet section, but this could have a hanging bar for an open closet when not in use. This could fold up when not in use and be taken out, or left there with matress to add an extra bed when we are at a park with bath-house.
4) Last Question. In others experience, how many clecos should I have on hand? Plan to drop and reinstall the interior skin, belly skin, and have a couple exterior issues, but hopefully dont have to replace full panels?
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05-25-2010, 10:52 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 848
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Project
Hey Matt,
Looks like you have a job that I'm sure you will enjoy. Much work ahead of you. Your time frame is perfect. We found a 65 Safari 1 year ago this month and we just got home from our maiden voyage.
Our project included new fridge, new cushions, new sink, new counter top, new stove, removed the oven and added more doors, new furnace, new fresh water tank, new carpet, blackened windows, new awnings all the way around, new axle, new wheels, new tanks, compounded with nuvite and now buffing with cyclo. So far we have original hot water heater, original bathroom, original mahogany cabinets (lucky they were not varnished but just oiled) and original converter. Seems like it took forever just to remove all the silicone that the PO used.
Most of the help, info, etc came from good folks on this forum and Andy at Inland RV. Most of our replacement items, materials & supplies came from Vintage Trailer Supply. I'm attaching a few pics or our work in progress and hope you enjoy yours as much as we do ours.....Tim
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05-25-2010, 11:02 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 20
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Looks incredible!!
Are the awnings Zip Dee??
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05-25-2010, 12:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Project
The patio, curbside and rear window awnings are Zip Dee and the front stone guard came from Inland Rv. This has been one of the most rewarding projects that we have undertaken. Good luck and enjoy yours....Tim
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05-25-2010, 01:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1958 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2004
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Congrats, Knoxvegas on your new baby.
Wow, Tim!! You've done a great job on yours. Looks great!!!
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05-25-2010, 09:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2022 25' International
Savage
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 753
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxvegas
Here are some questions:
1) Does anybody have opinions about trying to salvage some of the appliances? I know the oven/stove should work, and the fridge works on 110v. I did not buy it from the real PO, but a guy that flipped it in between, so he had hardly any knowledge. I got the original manual. TS8501 what do you think, I read your systems check section and it sounded like you scrapped most of yours anyway. I am considering doing a systems check, but to be honest am a bit scared about gas lines and old gas appliances. Kind of freaks me out.
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It kind of freaks me out too. Old gas anything, 50 year old technology, I am replacing everything gas (Gas lines, Water Heater, Furnace, Oven (gone for good), and cook top). There is plenty written on these forums about the furnace we have, and how dangerous it is. For me, I do not trust that old rusty water heater, I do not want a stove, and a new two burner stove top to replace the oven/cook-top that I removed is in order. The Refrigerator I do not have, so that will be new anyway. If I did have a gas fridge, I would have replaced that too.
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"I've got aluminum fever, and the only prescription, is more AIRSTREAM!!!"
'64 Safari Resoration Blog ("May"):
https://ts8501.blogspot.com/
TAC MN-6
WBCCI/VAC 11736
AIR 25979
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05-26-2010, 10:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxvegas
Here are some questions:
2) Anybody try bunks in a safari? Just a thought. Where the sofa bed is mid-ship across from the kitchen. Could do a bunk bed and use the upper for storage with a net when not in use as a bunk. Probably dont plan to do this in interest of keepng mostly original, but a thought. I have 3 boys. Would love to see pictures and design if anyone has done this or similar.
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Matt,
Here are some pictures of a convertible bunk that may give you some ideas.
Kevin
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05-26-2010, 10:53 AM
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A few more...
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05-26-2010, 12:12 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2010
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Wow, was that a factory option on the camper? I guess the load is distributed onto the ledger boards at the head and foot which are a cabinet?
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05-26-2010, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knoxvegas
Wow, was that a factory option on the camper? I guess the load is distributed onto the ledger boards at the head and foot which are a cabinet?
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Yes it was a factory option but not for Airstream...
This is in our 73 Avion.
Here are some pictures of the ledger boards and the piano hinge connections.
Kevin
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04-15-2011, 07:58 AM
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Rivet Master
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Greeeneville
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That factory bunk option was quite a piece of cabinetry. I have only seen this on one other Avion. Thanks for showing the pictures.
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05-27-2011, 10:49 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1964 22' Safari
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: May 2010
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So it has been a while since I posted. Had several projects going on, but now I am putting some focus on the AS. I have decided after reading many of the posts here that I will do a full "shell off" resoration/remodel. I have gutted the interior, dropped the belly skin, drilled out all the necessary rivets - including hidden ones, and cut the elevator bolts holding the shell to frame. Does anyone have any advise about the best way to attach the braces to the shell before I try to lift it? I just really dont want to bend or damage any ribs, etc...
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