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Old 06-26-2003, 07:19 PM   #29
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Bambi Price

OK I am new to all this...what can I expect to pay for a new Bambi vs. one that is a couple of years old? Thanks.
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Old 06-26-2003, 07:26 PM   #30
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$25k and some change is about average for a Bambi new as of the '03 model year. Older units (2002 and older) hold their value very well, but expect to pay a bit less than the $25k for each year older new depending on condition and mods that have been done. For example, dtbw (I think) has a 2002 and I would consider with his fantastic mods it might command a higher price, but that is just my opinion.

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Old 06-30-2003, 01:42 PM   #31
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I have had my 2003 Bambi for 6 months now and have had a few problems.

The Potable water fill tube leaked and saturated the carpet, the aquajet pump wiring came undone while I was in the shower, the pantry and closet door latches broke. The Refrigertor venting compartment has an annoying little electric fan that runs non stop at temps above 75 F while the fridge is running and I have been vacuming up and sweeping out aluminum and sawdust shavings since I brought it home.

I do like the double battery compartment I have yet to run out of power, the shower is great for a big guy, and the trailer is nice and warm in freezing weather. I have the optional black tank flush and would highly recommend it.

Overall its a very nice little trailer but I wish some of the details of interior finish and door latch choices were better.
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Old 07-30-2003, 09:26 AM   #32
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Just purchased a 19 ft 2000 bambi, been RVing for years but my first airstream. Looking forward to future travels and reading many interesting topics about Bambi.
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Old 07-30-2003, 10:03 AM   #33
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Welcome to the group

yargseth,
Let be among the first to say welcome. There are lots of us Bambi owners with models spanning the years of production. As you will find, we may whine about things that we think A/S could do better and some of us proceed to correct and improve even our brand new models, but we all know that we have the best overall constructed RV available. With the large membership of this forum, there is virtually no problem that someone has not already encountered, so feel free to ask questions. Again, welcome to the group
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Old 07-30-2003, 04:19 PM   #34
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I agree with David, although I do feel camp collectors pain!

One thing that is sorely missed is the bunk bed on the Bambi. 2002 seems to be the last year it was avail. I'm going down to the homecoming and I am going to see if it is even possible to retrofit the 2002 bunk in an 2003 and what the cost might be.

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Old 08-02-2003, 08:13 AM   #35
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Eric and David,
I am having a hard time trying to look at your photos..
I go to your profile section and then to the photo link and then I get a message that the page is expired...
What am I doing wrong...
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Old 08-02-2003, 09:58 AM   #36
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Photo section is down

Vajeep,
The photo section of this forum is down for the count. There were server issues awhile back and things are still being rebuilt. I have some of my pics posted over on the yahoo Airstreamlist forum, in the photo section listed under 02 Bambi.
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Old 08-02-2003, 10:14 AM   #37
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Thanks David,

Really do enjoy your posts. My wife and I are looking for a Bambi. Her! idea More because we are limited with our jeep on what we can tow. We like the idea of boondocking type of get aways. Should be plenty of places in VA...
Just missed a used bambi hear in Richmond Va by 2 days An 02 that sold for 22,500...(not sure what options)
Would like to get the new $ price with our wish list of options just to be better informed when we look at used... But we are not opposed at looking at new.
A couple of questions if you don't mind...
Did you ever tow w/o your HH?
What are the best options that you picked?
We are about an hour away from the A/S dealer and wanted to get the options list before we went to look.
Any questions that you could think of that we should ask the dealer?
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Old 08-02-2003, 10:58 AM   #38
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Abe,
Well the list price on an '04 Safari 19' Bambi is just over $33K. The new 19' CCD lists for just under $38K. It does not appear that A/S has made any previous options standard, so that price represents about a $5K increase in the base price since our '02. This is a list of the options that came as a package on my unit, the Safari upgrade (again, not sure if such exists in '04, but it did in previous years). This package included the electric front hitch, Corian countertops, upgraded A/C from 11K BTU to a 13,500BTU AC/Heatpump, a Fantastic Fan, spare tire and bracket(yea there is NO spare tire std), a black tank flushing system, upgrade on water pump to an Aquajet (a much better pump that provides variable flow control and virtually no pulsation), upgraded faucets throughout, upgrade tail lamp assemblies and finally the screen door guard (will really save the screen door over time as it protects the screen and provides significant strenghening of the frame. This package added $2718 to the list. A/S also offers each separately. Another option that is available is a front couch vs the dinette. We have the couch and really like it, but it is purely a personal preference. We did not like the interior color choices from A/S so we did a makeover immediately. If you would like to see pics, I could zip them up and send them over email. It gives you an idea of just want new drapes, floor, bedspread and leather/fabrics can do.

Which options would I get regardless, spare tire for sure, upgraded AC if you intend to be in hot climates, power front jack, and black tank flush. Next priority would be the AquaJet water pump, screen door guard, and Fantastic Fan. Finally the appearance items of the Corian, upgrade faucets and upgrade tail lamps are purely personal as to priority. BTW, I would put the Hensley hitch at the top of the list, and with that segway...

This tends to get into religion whenever brought up. Here is the bottom line. ANY trailer can fall victim to sway. A/Ss are among the best designed and balanced, but in our local unit, I know of 3 rigs that were totaled as a result of massive induced sway that finally flipped the rig as the result of an 18 wheelers passing at high speed. None of these had Hensley hitches, but all three did have either friction or Reese dual cam sway control. Have I towed the Bambi without the Hensley, NO. When growing up, I did towed my parents Airstream many a mile and while never faced with uncontrollable sway, I did have a few white knuckled moments (Reese dual cam). After studying the Hensley design and being an engineer, I clearly saw how it worked and realized that their claim that sway in IMPOSSIBLE with a Hensley is totally valid. Is the Hensley overkill, especially on a Bambi? Well that is a matter of opinion. The way I looked at it was that the Hensley was less than 5% of the cost of the A/S plus the tow vehicle and if it saved my butt even once it was cheap insurance. As for the improvement in towing ease, I can tell you that the Hensley really is impressive when 18 wheelers are passing either directions. I have been on narrow two lane roads at high combined speeds and never felt ANYTHING. Would I give it up, NEVER!

As for questions to ask a dealer...FIRST AND FOREMOST, check into the service dept. Go take a look. Talk to the technicians. Ask if they are A/S trained and certified. Ask the dealer if he is willing to provide any references of recent A/S buyers. Contact your local AS unit and drop in on their next rally. Talk to them and see what war stories regarding local dealers you can find. A/S has not been very good at creating a uniform and quality focused dealer network. The RV meltdown of the 80s almost ruined the whole industry and so there are some less than desirable dealers out there. If the dealer is offended, then turn and RUN away. A good dealer has nothing to hide and wants a happy customer.

Good luck and feel free to ask me and others on this forum questions.
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Another data point to consider

Abe,
You mentioned that you plan on towing with a Jeep. Even though the Jeep may be rated to tow the weight of the Bambi, it is the wheelbase of the Jeep that is the problem. Our Explorer Sport Trac has a 127" wheelbase (and studies indicate that is safe to about a 25' or so RV). We met a lovely single lady towing a 34' Classic limited with a Tahoe (this was her 5th A/S, but first really long one). She indicated that the first few trips were a nightmare of white knuckled driving. She then had the Hensley installed, and the result was amazing. Gone was the white knuckled experience. NOW, I am not about to advocate pulling a 34' with a Tahoe as a good idea, but with the Hensley, it did make the rig workable.
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David,

Thanks. The only A/S dealer in VA is a little under one hour from us. Just haven't had the time to visit yet. Your advice have given us some new ideas for our first visit. I think I understand the options. It seems that the best bet is to combine the options together for the best $. It seems that A/S is working to improve the workmanship issues. We are looking forward to the RV shows that will be in Richmond this winter. Hopefully A/S will be well represented!
Thanks for your HH imput. I really enjoy the HH debates that I have read... For me I feel that it is the best insurance that one can buy. If you can please send the photos to my wife's e-mail :mlincoln@infionline.net we would love to see what you have done! She is very good with window treatments and such. Me otoh am in charge of towing & mechanical...
Hey ,if your travels ever take you near Richmond VA you are welcome to stop by! We are just off of I95 and I64.
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Old 08-02-2003, 05:55 PM   #41
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Did you get the email

Abe,
Want to see if you got my email. Looks like it sent, but I got a msg from my outgoing virus checker that it did not due to a mail server disconnect. Let me know if I need to resend
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Old 08-03-2003, 06:56 AM   #42
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Got the e-mail , but no photos.
Will check back this afternoon.
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