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Old 04-03-2010, 08:04 PM   #1
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Mazda Towing Vehicle on the Edge for a 19 Bambi?

Considering a purchase of an 04 Bambi 19 with a weight of 3680, to be pulled by my Mazda cx-9 awd v-6 with an upgraded Curt hitch that claims a 4000 capability. Vehicle weighs 4550 and has a large 3.7L DOHC 24 valve engine with 273 hp. My question is not can if the Mazda pull it, but how much out of the safety margin would I be? Tough one.

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First off, welcome to the Forums, We're glad to have you with us.

Your proposal may be doable, but you need to research the high quality weight distribution/sway control hitch systems. There is a lot of information here on these Forums on these units. Generally speaking, you want your gross trailer weight to be about 80% of the towing capacity of the tow vehicle.

Choose carefully, as an insufficient tow vehicle is the single leading cause of a perfectly good Airstream becoming a very expensive piece of yard art.

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Welcome to the forum. About your Mazda...what does Mazda say the towing capacity is?
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Thanks for the advise
Mazda says 3500, then Curt adds another 500 with their hitch
are the older Bambis much lighter?
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An '04 19' Bambi is pretty much the same as the current model. It has a tongue weight of 550# and a loaded gross weight of 4500#. This is probably pushing the limits for the Mazda that you are looking at.

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Thanks for the advise
Mazda says 3500, then Curt adds another 500 with their hitch
are the older Bambis much lighter?
Yes, the older Bambis (60's) are in the 2500 pound range, dry weight, but keep in mind they are 16 footers. You might check out the current 16' if you are set on keeping the Mazda.
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Yep I'm getting the picture
will move on to a bigger vehicle
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Yep I'm getting the picture
will move on to a bigger vehicle
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Hi, even though you are considering a larger tow vehicle, I want to mention one thing; Curt could add more ability to the receiver, but cannot change to tow capacity of the vehicle as stated by the manufacture of the vehicle. In this case the Mazda remains at 3500 lbs.
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Thanks Bob, didn't understand that....
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I want to mention one thing; Curt could add more ability to the receiver, but cannot change to tow capacity of the vehicle as stated by the manufacture of the vehicle. In this case the Mazda remains at 3500 lbs.
The Mazda has a dry weight of over 4,500lbs with a 113" wheelbase.
It has a payload capacity of 1,500lbs (3/4 ton).
It has a power to weight ratio higher than most pick ups and SUV's
It has a very taunt suspension system with high quality road manners and good brakes.

The Mazda may have the towing prowess to be a very capable tow vehicle for a number of different sized/weights of Airstreams. The Mazda also comes with a class II optional receiver. It is entirely possible that the receiver that is rated for 3,500 Ibs is a limiting factor that Mazda uses to rate the "9". "If" the rest of the vehicle is capable of much more then the upgrade with the Curt is reasonable.

The Curt won't change the Mazda tow rating but would increase the towing ability of the vehicle if in fact the class II receiver is the weakest link.

Of course all theory and no way to prove without detailed evaluation of the vehicle but based on the information already available my bet is that the "9" is probably a very capable TV and understated.

"If" it is in fact the case then slam Mazda for low balling the tow rating on the "9" and directing the OP Ihermen to spend more of his hard earned dollars and another vehicle that may or may not be as capable as his "9", even though it would come with a higher tow rating.
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Mazda cx9

Road Rule presents an argument that it may be worth my time to further pursue real experience testing of the CX-9 AWD before dumping it in response to earlier posts....which may still be valid. As the 08 SUV of the year with great safety rating, a large v-6 and proven handling in touch conditions (winter driving in Michigan) we love the vehicle and would like to keep it.

More on this issue later
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FWIW... the tow rating for the 9 in Austrialia is 4500#'s... the basic same chassis/drivetrain / brakes is used by Ford for the Flex, which has a bigger receiver and is rated at 5000#'s. Since you're in MI, I'd call Andy at Canamrv.ca and see what he has to say.
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CX-9 and Ford Flex

thanks for the information Marc, much of the CX-9 is shared with the Ford Flex...so this makes sense.

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FWIW... Since you're in MI, I'd call Andy at Canamrv.ca and see what he has to say.
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Good idea. Generally speaking Andrew T. has the expertise and experience to give an objective opinion. Airstream Forums - View Profile: Andrew T
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