We recently purchased a '99 25' Safari in Utah. The guy we bought it from said in a recent storm, he found water leaking in around the rear escape window and had put a seal in and thought he had it fixed. When we hit New Mexico on the way home we ran into some rough weather and of course it leaked. After we got home, I thought the caulking around the top of the window frame might be the problem so I recalked all of the windows and hosed down the back one. Not a drop. Last week, we had another hard rain and again it leaked. It seems to be leaking right in the middle of the top of the frame. When I open the window, it swings out on a hinge at the top. I could see water collected around this area. I am at a loss as to how to keep water from entering though the hinge area. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.
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'99 25' Safari
2 Honda 2000i generators
'08 Chevy Duramax
'01 Yamaha Raptor ATV
'07 Yamaha Rhino ATV
2 burgler alarms: Rotweiller and Shepherd
"If you step down to get in, you have to step up to get out"
What are you using for caulk? If someone before you used silicone or you are using silicone now then it will not last long.
__________________ Craig
AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
It is not leaking at the calking. I can see it coming through the hinge. The gasket does not seem to stop it. Thanks
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'99 25' Safari
2 Honda 2000i generators
'08 Chevy Duramax
'01 Yamaha Raptor ATV
'07 Yamaha Rhino ATV
2 burgler alarms: Rotweiller and Shepherd
"If you step down to get in, you have to step up to get out"
About a year ago I pick up my ’99 Safari from the storage yard only to find the rear end soaked. I thought it had come from the vent, given that the center of the carpeting was wet, but the beds were dry. After looking every possible point where water could get in the rear of the trailer, I found the problem. It was the starboard side access door. The door did not pull tight against the rubber seal when shut. The solution was simply to bend carefully the inside latch a bit. Now to shut the doors (all three were not tight) I have to give them a small push while turning the latch. It hasn’t leaked a drop since then.
Since it is coming out at the hinge, I woould look higher up. Sounds to me like it may be coming in from somewhere well above the window; a seam, bad caulking around a vent, or a bad vent cap. The water will run along the inner aluminum shell and appear far from where the leak actially occurs.
On my former trailer, a ceiling light would fill up with water after a hard rain. I finally traced the water to an overtightened screw on a Fantastic Fan about 6 feet away. The water would then collect in the fan and run through a duct that carried the wires to the lights. The overtightened screw had extruded its way through the flange of the fan right where water poured off the dome of the vent.
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John W. Irwin
2005 Classic 28 "Sabre-Dog III"
2004 Silverado 2500HD Duramax/Allison
WBCCI Region 9 Webmaster, #9632
If you don't find the leak where you expect it to be, I have a suggestion for you. Take a close look at the holding tank vent pipes on the roof. They are installed with a rubber gasket that does not last long and when it goes it will leak. The water will then travel via the aluminum channels to an outlet place. Depending on how the rig is leveled it could go to the front or the back. I found both mine leaking very badly after searching for seveal years for the leak. The fix is easy! Good luck.
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James Schmidt
29 ft Excello 1000
97 Expedition/Hensley Hitch/
McKesh mirrors
I spoke with Jim at Airstream customer service a few days ago. Very nice guy and very willing to help. He has some suggestions but It has been raining and damp for a couple of weeks, so have not gotten to take another look up on top. I'm a little concerned about how to get up there without putting any weight on the crowns as Jim suggested. I purchased some Vulkem and will start at the rear seam on top and work forward. I am open to any other suggestions. I think I am going to invite all to a party when I finally get it fixed!
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'99 25' Safari
2 Honda 2000i generators
'08 Chevy Duramax
'01 Yamaha Raptor ATV
'07 Yamaha Rhino ATV
2 burgler alarms: Rotweiller and Shepherd
"If you step down to get in, you have to step up to get out"
I had the same problem with my 25C Safari, except I had it at both the front and the rear. The dealer was no help, even though it was still under warranty.
I belive that I found the problem and it was with the clearance lights on mine. Two weekends ago, on our last trip of the year, the leak in the rear came back. Because it had snowed 4" that night I was fairly confident that the leak was not higher up and indeed found that there was an accumulation of snow over the rear clearance lights. Once removed, the leak stopped.
I started with a hose running a full, but not too fast stream and, with my daughter inside, slowly moved from lowest to highest spots to try and get the leaks. I tried as best possible to isolate the potential areas and it took about 2 hours total.
As for the roof, I simply stay on the cross ribswith an old furniture pad and had no problem, other than a few cramps in the legs!
I'm 195, so not really a lightweight.
Could you be a little more specific as to exactly what you found that caused the clearance lights to leak. I suspected mine were leaking but when I removed the lense, all looked watertight. Did you caulk around the outside or on the inside? Thanks,
James
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James Schmidt
29 ft Excello 1000
97 Expedition/Hensley Hitch/
McKesh mirrors
Around the outside, but it was an extremely thin bead, so it can't be seen from more than a couple feet away. I did it all the way around to give it a more finished appearance. It was a grey/silver Vulkem product that the dealer gave me, but I pitched the tube so can't tell you exactly what it was.
Since we are talking leaks, I developed one in August during a thunder storm. Water started running down the wall behind the stove vent hood. It ended up being the seams in the stove vent plastic hood on the curbside outside wall of the trailer. Just to the right and left of the vent door flap were two small vertical seams in the the vent hood (not cracks though, it seemed to be part of the manufacturing process). The wind forced the rain into these seams. I put a very small thin bead of Parbond on each seam (it matched the grey color of the vent exactly). Once dried I hit the vent with the hose and this time no water.
Jack
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Jack Canavera
STL Mo. AIR #56
'04 Classic 30' S.O.
'03 GMC Savana 2500
'08 Vespa GTS 250
Well, it has been 3 years now and I still have the leak. Local Airstream repair facility gave up about 1 1/2 years ago and decided the only way to find it was to remove the overhead storage bins and head liner. Said it would run about 8 hours to take it out at about $95 an hour, etc. but that was only the rear about where the rear cap is rivited. Never did find out what it would cost if it was running from farther towards the front. My guess would be to keep tearing it apart. Anyway, I declined and since have caulked the poor thing so much I may have used up a lot of my carrying capacity. LOL. I just can not see anyhthing that even comes close to looking like it might be suspect to a leak on top. The only thing I have not done is completely take the a/c off. Airstream told me there is no way it can leak because it is sealed off where it comes through the roof. Local guy doesn't think it can be that either. It never leaks around the a/c area. Only over the back window. Driving me nuts! The factory said that if I bring it to them, the first thing they would pressurize it and soak it down with soapy water and look for bubbles. They suggested I locate one close to home and not have to travel so far. The local Holiday Rambler dealer had one so I took it to them. 3 hours and $400 later I pulled it home. Rained a few days later and it was still leaking. Arranged for them to do it a second time and again the could not find a leak on top. So, I have just lived with it hoping it would just go away....
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'99 25' Safari
2 Honda 2000i generators
'08 Chevy Duramax
'01 Yamaha Raptor ATV
'07 Yamaha Rhino ATV
2 burgler alarms: Rotweiller and Shepherd
"If you step down to get in, you have to step up to get out"
Hello... We have had a leak in our Argosy .. couldn't track it down.. finally my hubby soaped down the front and took the air compressor to the inside and went around the window.. bingo.. found the area that the leak was at... and fixed it.. try the same method.. it is similar what the RV people do but costs nothing ... Annie