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Old 03-14-2005, 09:19 PM   #1
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Hi everyone. I thought I just posted a new thread but it seems to have disappeared into thin air so here goes again. The weather up here has risen to a balmy 40 degrees and it's time to start pulling apart the Safari, starting with the bathroom since that's where the floor rot is. I began pulling out the toilet, a Sealand 910, which I believe is original to my coach. Got it down to it's base and 4 screws which after an eternity came out (one had to be encouraged by drilling) and now the toilet still seems to be firmly in place. It was getting dark so I tried wedging a screwdriver under it and wiggling it back and forth but I didn't want to push it. Is there something not visable from the top holding the base in place? I have a nice photo of it which I'd love to post but I can't seem to figure out how to post photos. I got it into my member photo file with no problems but when I try and insert it here all I get is a box with an x in it, so if someone could enlighten me on that too I would greatly appreciate it.....Thanks!!
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Old 03-14-2005, 09:20 PM   #2
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As you can see I figured out the file attachment issue. I had nice arrows pointing to the holes, but I think it's fairly obvious where they are!
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Old 03-19-2005, 02:43 AM   #3
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got the toilet blues......

I'm resurrecting this because I'm hoping I can get some advice by Sunday when I'd ideally like to yank this thing out. I've been going through the archives and noticed that in most cases that threads came out of the floor and that the toilet is attached to the floor by nuts...mine is the other way around screws (one missing) held it in but the P/O may have done that...Am I correct in assuming that these screws also serve to hold the black tank flange in place? (not sure if flange is the right word) . Appreciate anyones thoughts here
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:22 PM   #4
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It's out! It's out!

Yesirree! I got it out and all it took was a little persuasion from a large screwdriver...and then I saw the wax donut...and what appears to be a home-made foam gasket. Truely scary and not at all correct looking. Which might explain the strange screw set up with their heads up as opposed to a nut. Since I still have a drilled out screw sticking out of the metal flange which didn't seem eager to come out I decided to abandon the toilet for now and move on to disassembling the bathroom. Many, many rivets and screws later I have come to the humble opinion that when Airstream assembled these things they started back and then proceeded to attach everything thing to it's neighbor right up to the door. Well, I'm hoping not quite up to the door because I just want to do the bathroom for the moment. So the question for this week is how far up do I have to go before I can start fully being able to remove everything? I am thinking it will have to be at least the main partition, bathroom side because there's no way the show will come out otherwise.....I would treasure anyone's opinion. I don't mind rambling on by myself here, honest I don't, but I love to hear what you all think.....
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Old 03-21-2005, 11:27 PM   #5
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Many, many rivets and screws later I have come to the humble opinion that when Airstream assembled these things they started back and then proceeded to attach everything thing to it's neighbor right up to the door.

This is a correct assumption. The bathroom originally went in first. Then they installed the rest of the trailer interior. Makes it a bear getting the bathroom out without tearing apart the rest of the coach

If you can somehow disassemble the bedroom, without removing the kitchen, you would then be able to remove the bathroom in reverse order of installation.

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Old 03-21-2005, 11:32 PM   #6
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bummer!

Hmmmmm....That's not what I was hoping to hear! I guess if everything does have to come out I can make sure there's no more rot. It'll make the wood easier to refinish too. Thanks for your reply (sure beats talking to myself!!) I'll keep you posted on my progress!
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heeeeeeeeelp!

Hi everyone - I'm hoping one of you guys can help me here - I'm in the process of removing my bathroom and have hit several areas which I currently am unable to resolve preventing me from moving forward. The first involves the drain to the tub (and also the drain to the sink). I can get under the vanity to get at the large plastic hexagonal fastener (not sure what it's really called) directly under the sink drain but it won't budge. I seem to remember in a distant thread where someone said that to remove the tub you had to unscrew the drain by putting some sort of a object it it and then try to turn it in a counter-clockwise direction to remove it. I tried this and it doesn't want to move either. I don't want to put too much force on it and end up breaking things but first I need to know if what I'm doing is the right thing to do here. Will this method also work on the sink drain?

The other issue I'm having involves the removal of the wall between the bathroom and the gaucho. I have looked everywhere for an obvious way for this to come out and the only thing that seems to make sense is a screw which was covered with a wood plug. It's located about 3 or 4 inches from the ceiling on the gaucho side of the wall on the trim strip that runs up the wall right by the side of the bathroom door. I am hoping this will start the process of seperating that whole area above the sliding door - I can't think of any other way to get this wall out....I'd like to spend tomorrow dealing with this - is there anyone out there that can help with any of these problems? Sorry to have gone on so long!!!! Diane
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I know on the walls that the channel that the pannel rests in, it is criped at the top. For the drain, they can be a bear to loosen. I know I broke one taking it apart.
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Hi Tedd! I drilled out all the rivets in hopes of loosening the panel on the shower side of the divider and came up empty because as you mentioned it's crimped somehow at the top. Will the panel slide out forward once I free up that whole area above where the door would be when it is closed? The big issue I'm having here is that the stupid screw that seems to be holding the whole thing together was buggered and I am in the process of drilling it out. Drilling aluminum rivets is one thing - drilling out steel screws is quite another, especially when it resides over my head. Oh, my aching arms! Is the way I'm going about screwing out the drain piece the right way to go? I tried to lubricate it with some penetrating oil tonight- hopefully it'll turn tomorrow (yeah, right!)
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Try heating up the drain area. Mine had a plumbers putty on it, I used the wife's hair drier to warm it up. (have nice heat gun now ) It turned easy once the putty got warm.
I used 2 screw drivers between the cross pieces. Once it was out I found a new one at Home Depot for cheap $$$ Good luck.
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Balrgn,
Now you tell me about the heat thing...... I should have remembered the "heat it and beat it into submission" quote I have heard before.

It sounds like your well on your way to getting the wall out.
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Now you tell me about the heat thing...... I should have remembered the "heat it and beat it into submission" quote I have heard before.

It sounds like your well on your way to getting the wall out.
The wall was a bugger! The top of the closet door took a good hour to persuade out, Once that was out the wall needed to be flexed just a bit to remove it from the track. All in all it went real well! Slow and steady, if you start to get frustrated, move on to something else. It will be there when you get back!
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Lightbulb ah, heat!

Hi there Balrgn (and you too Tedd)
Totally forgot about using heat. It's so frustrating because you just can't get under it and the fiberglass tub seems fragile. I was trying the one screwdriver approach (using a hammer to encourage it) but the 2 method seems better. I'll give it a whirl and let you know what happens. Nice to know if I break it I can get a replacement cheap! Thanks Diane
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Hi there Balrgn (and you too Tedd)
Totally forgot about using heat. It's so frustrating because you just can't get under it and the fiberglass tub seems fragile. I was trying the one screwdriver approach (using a hammer to encourage it) but the 2 method seems better. I'll give it a whirl and let you know what happens. Nice to know if I break it I can get a replacement cheap! Thanks Diane
Even if you don't break it, you might want to get a new one. Don't forget to use Plumbers putty when you put it back in! That and the rivets is the only thing holding it in place
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