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Old 03-31-2014, 09:23 AM   #681
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Hey Bauxter,

I suppose you could, but I wouldn't. I'd be concerned with having the sink draining the same time you flush the toilet. You may end up with air being pushed back up the toilet while you're flushing it because the vent is full of water from the sink. I don't think that would be good...

If you never flushed the toilet while the sink is draining, it would never be an issue.

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Old 03-31-2014, 09:27 AM   #682
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Hi Perry,

I've attached the PDF file we've been working from. Shows where everything is for the most part.

Although there are many days when I'm not sure where I am or where I'm going.

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Old 04-06-2014, 08:55 PM   #683
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68 today!!! Woohoo!!!

It was finally time to stop putting off working on the curved rear wall in the bathroom. After a few trials with different things, we finally settled on a design that I could make and looks good too. Like so many things in the trailer, it's a combination of ideas we both came up with.



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It began with building a curved bottom plate out of 3 layers of 1/2" plywood. I needed the thickness to go over the water line that feeds the toilet. I curved a piece of 1/16" thick by 1/2" wide angle aluminum to form a lip at the bottom for strips of 1/4" plywood to slip into.


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I mounted this bottom plate behind the toilet. The curve is tighter than the curve of the counter-top, creating a compound curve, which was my stumbling block for so long.


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To overcome the compound curve, I cut 3" wide strips of 1/4" alder plywood. I then kerfed the back of the plywood vertically every 1/4" to allow it to curve. The kerfs are about 1/8" deep. I used aluminum extrusions in between each plywood slat to hold everything in line. In the picture above, the first 4 slats are installed. These 4 were easy, as they are all straight 3" slats top to bottom. After these slats were installed, all the remaining slats needed to be tapered on one side to keep the extrusions straight up and down, and to make the compound curve.



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This is the extrusion I used between the slats.



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A couple of pics of the curved wall finished. In the first picture, you can kinda see that the slats are narrower at the bottom than they are at the top. The screws along the top will be covered with the counter-top edge trim.



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Here, I've started on the other side of the rear wall. Much easier since it's all a straight line. I used exterior power grab to glue the very left-hand slat to the extrusion and the next slat since there is nothing at the top or bottom for it to screw into. It's held pretty snugly against the inner skin, so I don't think it'll go anyplace.



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Other side finished. We decided we like the look of this so much, we're going to continue it across the rest of the rear wall. I changed how I did the bottom of this part of the wall since it's straight and I have easy access to it. The slats are screwed at the bottom to a piece of 1" basswood cut at an angle to match the slope of the wall. We'll install base trim once we have the entire wall installed.

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Old 04-06-2014, 09:08 PM   #684
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Congrats on 68!!!

Your workmanship is just excellent!

I was trying to think of something funny, silly or sarcastic to say about how the two of you continue to impress with your skills....but just genuine truth is best, lest I be misunderstood.

Nice way to solve, looking forward to seeing it at vintage
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:11 PM   #685
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That is so cool!!!
You guys are ingenious!
And yay to 60 degree weather - we deserve it!!
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Old 04-07-2014, 09:41 AM   #686
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Little Girl is a Land Yacht! The look in the bathroom is like a high end sail boat. Beautiful! Wally would be pleased. Maybe Airstream will start a Little Girl high end option.


Creating a link between two compound curves is complex. The tapered slats with aluminum joiner is super. Not just everyone could craft the pieces just right. I have trouble sawing 2x4s square and at the right length!


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Old 04-07-2014, 10:04 AM   #687
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I have trouble sawing 2x4s square and at the right length!


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That's why he has a workshop full of power tools!


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Old 04-08-2014, 07:29 PM   #688
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Have been looking at your interior PDF diagram as an interior inspiration for our blank slate 62 28' Ambassador. Although your trailer is slightly wider may I ask what size bed you have. I did look through the thread but did not see it. Thanks
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Old 04-08-2014, 07:49 PM   #689
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Have been looking at your interior PDF diagram as an interior inspiration for our blank slate 62 28' Ambassador. Although your trailer is slightly wider may I ask what size bed you have. I did look through the thread but did not see it. Thanks
Hi Hittenstiehl,

The bed is a regular full size. A queen or a short queen would have been too wide.

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Old 04-08-2014, 08:08 PM   #690
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Made some more progress over the last couple of days.


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I cut a bunch more 3" slats for the rear wall. Kay poly'ed them and I installed them this evening. Ran out of extrusion to make the entire wall out of 3" slats though... One piece short... Cut two slightly wider pieces for the center, which need to be poly'ed before I can install them. It'll look fine and be a "planned for that look" once it's installed.



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I cobbled together a cover to hide the plumbing on the starboard side of the bathroom. 3 cleats on the inner skin and a basswood frame covered with a red alder board for the top and plywood for the side.


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I built the cabinet for behind the shower over the weekend and installed it last night on the back of the shower wall. Just the base is in right now. Still needs a top, shelves and a door.

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extrusions

C&K, where did you get those extrusions?

thanks
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Old 04-09-2014, 06:45 PM   #693
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A tad more progress.


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Finished installing the last of the slats on the rear wall. Now to trim out the shelf.



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Installed the cabinet top and shelves. Hard to get decent pictures in the bathroom due to a general lack of room!



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Installed a piece of 1/4" plywood to cover the side of the wall between the shower and the cabinet. Will trim with aluminum soon.

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There is no way that all of this top-shelf work is inside of a single trailer...

I'm thinkin' that ya'll are re-fittin' a entire fleet of trailers and only showing us small details from each unit... ;o)

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Well, after 6 years, it certainly seems like it should be multiple trailers...

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Old 04-13-2014, 07:25 PM   #696
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Putzy progress this weekend. Seems like I did a lot of work with not very much to show for it. But then, some of that work is building a cabinet to hold the zipdee chairs, similar to the map table installed in some Airstreams. But no pictures of that yet.



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Installed the mirror and vanity light above it, as well as aluminum trim along the side of the wall and cabinet. Kay painted the mirror with a hammer finish silver paint, which we've used on the kitchen window screen and door trim. The light came from Camping World.



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I also installed trim on the end of the wall. Finishes off that end of the shower and wall nicely. Need to finish cleaning up some old caulk and add new caulk to really finish it off. Need slightly warmer weather again for that!



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Added trim pieces to cover up the slits in the middle ceiling panel from when we re-installed the ceiling. We had cut the ceiling panel into 3 pieces to make it easier to re-install, and to make it so we would have less to take out in case we ever needed to to service anything above the panel.



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Also trimmed around the rear vent area over the bed. Originally, the overhead light around the vent covered the edges of the ceiling panel, so the extrusion that holds the rest of the ceiling up stops 21" short of the end of the panel. After 2 years, it had started drooping. The cross piece of trim that runs under the vent trim ring holds the end of the panel and the trim ring in place much better now. All this new ceiling trim will get painted as soon as it warms up again.



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Outside, I finally installed the dump light. More to get rid of the orange wire that was hanging below the trailer than any other reason. I used a piece of aluminum angle as a guard for the switch. Time will tell if it protects the switch from road debris or not. It doesn't put out a ton of light, but should come in handy if we ever need to dump in the dark.

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I love the Segmented Wood Panel w/ Alum Trim . . . with your permission I am going to look for a place to use that detail in my trailer . . .
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Old 04-17-2014, 07:34 AM   #698
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Oh absolutely, Mark! Any and all of our ideas are open to use by others! After all, a lot of our ideas came from others ideas that we read about...


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Finished up several projects over the last few days.


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The bed's plywood platform had developed a significant bow to it over the last year or so. I made a brace out of red alder by gluing two 3/4" boards together. The brace is 2" tall under the plywood, with a rabbit to cover the edge of the plywood. It not only straightened the plywood out, it also makes a nice handle for lifting the bed platform.



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I added trim to the front edge of the steps at the foot of the bed, and made a cover for the top to hide the plumbing for now. Eventually, I'll build a small bookcase and upper cabinets on the side wall over the bed.



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We finished the bathroom trim! I trimmed out the rear recessed shelf with alder, and added the counter-top aluminum edge.



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A view from the other side of the bathroom.



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I also trimmed out the other side of the shower with a strip of alder and aluminum angle.

I think the bathroom is done now, with the possible exception of adding aluminum trim for a baseboard on the rear slant wall. We're going to camp with it for a bit while we think about if we really need the baseboard or not.

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Built a cabinet to hold our new ZipDee chairs. I based this on the map table that Airstream installed in some trailers. A future project will be to add a lift-up table to the cabinet. The cabinet is red alder boards glued together to form the base, and a red alder top and door. It's held in place with cleats attached to the inner skin.



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A couple of pictures with the door open. There's just enough room in the cabinet to hold the chairs.


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I finally got the trim installed over the rear bumper to hide the rivet line. I forget where I bought this trim piece from as I've had it for over a year now. It was basically the same profile as the belt trim, but without the indentation in the middle, and also much taller. I ripped one edge down to the height I needed, and tried bending it to fit up against the skin tightly. Ended up cutting it into 3 sections to get it to fit tightly, because Little Girl had suffered rear end separation, and the skin was out of kilter around the rear.



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Closer shot of the two side sections of the new trim. I put a really good bead of vulkum under the new trim and used closed end rivets to attach it. A dab of vulkum on each rivet should ensure a good seal for a long long time.

With the addition of this new trim, I now have 4 layers of protection on that rear skin to bumper joint, with vulkum in between each layer. Hopefully that will prevent it from ever leaking into the rear edge of the plywood floor.

It's also warm enough now that Kay was able to sanitize the water system today! Bleach water is drained out, and baking power water is in to get rid of the bleach taste.

We're almost ready to hit the road for the Vintage Trailer Academy!

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