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10-12-2011, 05:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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'72 Sovereign, push start to begin
What have I done?!
I have, for a long time kept an eye out for an AS in need of restoration. So far they have either been to far away or to expensive. Yesterday the craigslist gods decided to tempt me.
Without any sort of real knowledge of what to look for when buying an AS, I feverishly pulled the trigger
enter the 1972 Air stream sovereign
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10-12-2011, 06:51 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,991
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Welcome!! There's lots of help here on the forums, plus we like pictures (hint hint)!
Chris
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10-12-2011, 08:25 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Currently Looking...
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,062
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Well Sir, you have joined the elite... Elite what we have no clue but you among them now! Minno notes this forum runs on pictures and I agree, a few pictures tacked on to a post speaks volumes past what the text may say.
First major thing is putting water or RV anti-freeze in ALL the plumbing traps for sanitary reasons, keep the wee beasties living in the septic system from visiting the passenger compartment - second thing is winterizing the plumbing (draining, compressed air blow-out would be best) to handle your New York winter - third thing is seeking out flaws in the shell to arrest any (further) moisture intrusion into the trailer. The rear bumper and lower belt-line trim (where the underside sheet metal wraps up to blend into the wall) need to be sealed else rain, dew, snowmelt will be camping out where it isn't supposed too..
Looking forward to reading & seeing your posts!
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The days are short and the night is long and the stars go tumbling by.. . ~Airstream~
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10-12-2011, 11:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 20' International
Shasta Lake City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,113
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TightStream
What have I done?!
I have, for a long time kept an eye out for an AS in need of restoration. So far they have either been to far away or to expensive. Yesterday the craigslist gods decided to tempt me.
Without any sort of real knowledge of what to look for when buying an AS, I feverishly pulled the trigger
enter the 1972 Air stream sovereign
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Greetings from the land of Sovereign Airstreams....
Mr. Tight, Welcome to the world of Sovereigns. If you have any questions about your sovereign, please feel free to ask Minno! Just kidding . But seriously, you will find that minno's thread can be very helpful, especially if you're planning to remove the skin. Also, TOP has good information and is very helpful, just don't ask which shock you should buy! Kidding Mr TOP.
If you need any advice on "Camping at a Casino", than come and see The Bunny and I, on our Thread. Or if you need to remove the interior sky light windows, patch the cracks in your plastic wheel wells, sealing/cleaning sticky walls, or replacing sections of your plywood floor, please feel free to ask... Good Luck and try to have some fun with your new baby!
PS, when you're asking questions, please post photos of the problem/issue. Trust me, you will get a better anwser back!
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10-12-2011, 12:14 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,917
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Welcome to Sovereign Lover's Land
I'm in between Sovereign 31's right now. So, show us lots of pictures. Maybe it will keep me from buying another.
P.S. You'll notice my Avatar is a Sovereign 31,' not my 2007 Classic.
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2020 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab 6.2L Max Tow Four Corners Unit WBCCI #5783
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10-12-2011, 03:52 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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10-12-2011, 04:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2019 27' Flying Cloud
Albuquerque
, New Mexico
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,917
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Ah yes, Sleeping Beauty awaiting the lover's kiss... and about $9,000 and 18 months of hard labor. Nothing to it.
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2020 GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab 6.2L Max Tow Four Corners Unit WBCCI #5783
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10-12-2011, 04:38 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1974 23' Safari
Vintage Kin Owner
1947 25' Spartan
, Manor
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 457
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I'm currently gutting my 74 Safari... I'll tell you that one way to look at it is you have less rivets to drill out! the skin looks great, how's the frame?
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10-12-2011, 04:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,991
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Skin looks great - most of your demolition is done which is a plus in our book. How's your frame? I think Alumaholic is low on price to put her back together. Nine grand - I wish. Do you have any of the innards that were taken out or was it all gone when you got her? At least she's named: Sleeping Beauty, courtesy of Alumaholic!
Kay (other half of Minno)
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10-12-2011, 05:04 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wabbiteer
First major thing is putting water or RV anti-freeze in ALL the plumbing traps for sanitary reasons, keep the wee beasties living in the septic system from visiting the passenger compartment!
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not sure i follow, is this to eliminate anything air born?
the next time i enter this trailer i hope to be wearing a chemical suit, i promise you, the pictures do not do it justice. disgusting
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10-12-2011, 05:05 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minno
Welcome!! There's lots of help here on the forums, plus we like pictures (hint hint)!
Chris
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thanks for the warm welcome, glad to be here finally!
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10-12-2011, 05:17 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric H
I'm currently gutting my 74 Safari... I'll tell you that one way to look at it is you have less rivets to drill out! the skin looks great, how's the frame?
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i am not an expert but the skin does seem to be in good condition...
the PO started gutting the trailer and stripping back the floor, from what i can see(the front section) the frame seemssolid but very rusty. I have only just started to research the restoration options, but being a welder i am most amused by another member "Darkspeed"s approach.
i was wondering, is there a FAQ with restoration how tos? i would like to start researching how the shell is attached to the sub floor and frame. also would like to know how everyone is lifting the shells off, secure points to lift from or places that need support?
thanks a bunch in advance!
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10-12-2011, 05:25 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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perhaps i am getting ahead of myself...
I do still need to pick up the trailer! haha
I am going to attempt to tow the trailer approximately an hour to its winter resting place, the trailer last moved over two years ago and it was only down the road when it did. the undercarriage cover is hanging down in the front and rear so i will either need to remove it or secure it before towing. another immediate issue is that the side steps seem frozen in the down position, i may have to drill out the hardware
I am borrowing a full size dodge cumins 4x4 for the task, i have zero faith in the trailers braking system being at all operational so i hope the truck can handle it.
any other pre flight checks specific to the air stream?
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10-12-2011, 05:39 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minno
Skin looks great - most of your demolition is done which is a plus in our book. How's your frame? I think Alumaholic is low on price to put her back together. Nine grand - I wish. Do you have any of the innards that were taken out or was it all gone when you got her? At least she's named: Sleeping Beauty, courtesy of Alumaholic!
Kay (other half of Minno)
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sleeping beauty, i will take that into consideration! haha
from what i can see of the frame, its rough enough in the front to make me think the rear may be totally shot. my understanding is that the rear section under the bathroom usually degrades first, only time will tell.
the PO "says" he has all of the parts that were removed minus the fridge. My vision has never been to restore the interior to its former glory but to instead make everything custom taking cues from the original design. that being said i am going to pressure wash everything and after reference templates are made everything will be up for grabs.
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10-12-2011, 05:43 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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one more thing before i force myself to sign off, is there a way i could track the history of this trailer? it has kentucky plates and i am curious...
ok two more things.. haha
is there an original floor plan schematic available for this model some where out there?
its good to be here!
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10-12-2011, 05:54 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,720
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'72 Sovereign, push start to begin
Greetings TightStream!
Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Airstream ownership!
Quote:
Originally Posted by TightStream
one more thing before i force myself to sign off, is there a way i could track the history of this trailer? it has kentucky plates and i am curious...
ok two more things.. haha
is there an original floor plan schematic available for this model some where out there?
its good to be here!
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In the past few years, Airstream has begun to provide a number of resources for Vintage Airstream owners on their corporate website. You can find the 1972 floorplans at this link.
Good luck with your projects!
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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10-12-2011, 06:07 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Its perfect! Congrads!
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10-12-2011, 06:14 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TightStream
i am not an expert but the skin does seem to be in good condition...
the PO started gutting the trailer and stripping back the floor, from what i can see(the front section) the frame seemssolid but very rusty. I have only just started to research the restoration options, but being a welder i am most amused by another member "Darkspeed"s approach.
i was wondering, is there a FAQ with restoration how tos? i would like to start researching how the shell is attached to the sub floor and frame. also would like to know how everyone is lifting the shells off, secure points to lift from or places that need support?
thanks a bunch in advance!
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Hey that me! lol..
If you look at the aluminum falcon thread I think I took photos all along the way including the lift..
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10-12-2011, 06:34 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1972 31' Sovereign
hudson valley
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkspeed
Hey that me! lol..
If you look at the aluminum falcon thread I think I took photos all along the way including the lift..
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already been all over it!
like to pick your brain about frame design at some point.... looks like you have yours well in hand, great job.
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10-12-2011, 06:47 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Thanks, Shure..
My frame is overbuilt to support a fairly large battery / solar install.
I know a few here have built frames from C5 6.7lb and seem to be happy with them.
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