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09-17-2015, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Usually the problem seems to be low pressure. A device to boost the pressure would be nice to have.
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09-17-2015, 02:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
Usually the problem seems to be low pressure. A device to boost the pressure would be nice to have.
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When that's the problem, fill the fresh tank and use the pump and city water when you need the pressure....like for a shower. One of these days, I'm going to install a pump bypass so I can keep the fresh tank filled without disconnecting and pulling the hose around to the fill port.
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09-17-2015, 02:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 27' Flying Cloud
W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
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One of these days, I'm going to install a pump bypass so I can keep the fresh tank filled without disconnecting and pulling the hose around to the fill port.
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Do you have an outdoor shower on your trailer? If I want to add fresh water at a camp where I'm connected to city water, I just remove the shower head from my outdoor shower, put that hose in to my fresh tank and open the cold outdoor shower spigot. No need to disconnect the city hose and drag it to the other side.
You may be talking about something else so if I missed that, my apologies...
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09-17-2015, 02:44 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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No, Steve, That's brilliant...but I have no outside shower and my tank fill is curbside. I do have a standard stick house type hose bib in a lower compartment...but it is streetside.
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09-17-2015, 02:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 23' Safari SE
Biloxi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
When that's the problem, fill the fresh tank and use the pump and city water when you need the pressure....like for a shower. One of these days, I'm going to install a pump bypass so I can keep the fresh tank filled without disconnecting and pulling the hose around to the fill port.
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Thanks, I have done that a few times for showers.
My trailer came with a box of plumbing goodies. Got digging thru it today and found this. Guess I have an external pressure regulator after all.
Same as this
Amazon.com: Camco 40053 Brass Water Pressure Regulator: Automotive
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02-10-2016, 09:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2007 28' Classic
Ivanhoe
, Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2015
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Is the on board AS regulator just inside the fill connection and easy to replace? I am in Florida and have 40# at the hose, but not enough pressure to flush the toilet inside, so I am thinking the onboard regulator has gone bad. I have '07 Classic Limited.
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02-10-2016, 09:38 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Yes, just on the inside wall from the fresh water hose connection.
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02-10-2016, 02:09 PM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xCliff
Do I need a water pressure regulator when hooking up to water at an RV campsite to fill up my fresh water tank? I've heard that it will serve as added protection from damage to my plumbing if there is too much water pressure at the site.
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No regulator is necessary when filling the tank. It's not pressurized, so you turn the hose off manually when it's full, and then you're good for at least a day or two.
But usually, if you're staying at a campsite where water is available, you don't use the tank, instead, you use the city water connection on your trailer. For that, pressure is only rarely a problem.
In six years of traveling I've run into one campground that had a problem with high pressure water, and they had signs up to that effect, saying it was 100 PSI and you should use a regulator on the campground tap, or just fill your freshwater tank instead of using the city water connection. They had regulators for sale in the office.
My trailer has a built-in pressure regulator but I found that the hose would drip no matter what I did.
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Originally Posted by dznf0g
When that's the problem, fill the fresh tank and use the pump and city water when you need the pressure....like for a shower.
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Noise and flow rate are the main problems.
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One of these days, I'm going to install a pump bypass so I can keep the fresh tank filled without disconnecting and pulling the hose around to the fill port.
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Be sure you put in an overflow. A badly overfilled freshwater tank can not only burst, it can damage the frame and floor too.
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04-30-2016, 10:54 AM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Has anything changed on newer (2015) AS when it comes to water pressure regulation? Is it still a good idea to use an external pressure regulator to protect the hose, etc?
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04-30-2016, 01:54 PM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
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Yes, we use an external pressure regulator to protect the hose and external water filter. Otherwise, we wouldn't bother - we just dislike the potential of a burst hose and gallons of potable water all over the campsite.
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04-30-2016, 07:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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I saw that on your blog. Do you still like the SS one you list?
I am thinking of going with the lower end Camco blue filter for now.
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Originally Posted by Rocinante
Yes, we use an external pressure regulator to protect the hose and external water filter. Otherwise, we wouldn't bother - we just dislike the potential of a burst hose and gallons of potable water all over the campsite.
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04-30-2016, 08:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
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I don't think a second pressure regulator is needed, and I don't think it will protect the hose.
I think the hose bursts from sitting in the hot sun with a volume of water trapped in the hose between the campground backflow prevention valve and your Airstream's closed water system. The water expands and the hose material is the weakest link.
A better hose protection device that also protects your Airstream plumbing from expansion damage is a water pressure accumulator mounted inside the Airstream and connected to your Airstream plumbing.
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04-30-2016, 10:24 PM
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Living Riveted since 2013
2016 Interstate Lounge Ext
Green Cove Springs
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2013
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Water Pressure Regulator Device
Quote:
Originally Posted by cactusjk
I saw that on your blog. Do you still like the SS one you list?
I am thinking of going with the lower end Camco blue filter for now.
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Yes, we still like the SS Camco regulator. Again, it's nice to have, not necessarily required. We like to think it protects the hose, etc. and so we use it. Pretty cheap insurance, really.
Dkottum may be right about the accumulator, btw. We have no idea.
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04-30-2016, 10:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
, Oregon
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dkottum
I don't think a second pressure regulator is needed, and I don't think it will protect the hose.
I think the hose bursts from sitting in the hot sun with a volume of water trapped in the hose between the campground backflow prevention valve and your Airstream's closed water system. The water expands and the hose material is the weakest link.
A better hose protection device that also protects your Airstream plumbing from expansion damage is a water pressure accumulator mounted inside the Airstream and connected to your Airstream plumbing.
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Hi, Doug; I have been in camp grounds that have around 100 lbs of water pressure and for these I use an external water pressure regulator. This is to protect my hose and filter. Do you really think an accumulator will prevent this? I don't know the rating of a water hose, but I think 100 lbs is too much for one.
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05-01-2016, 01:46 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1989 32' Excella
Sharon Springs
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2016
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How long has AS been using the internal regulator, what is its expected service life, where is it located and can it be replaced by an AS owner?
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05-01-2016, 04:09 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 25' Safari
Salem
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MAJORJDB
How long has AS been using the internal regulator, what is its expected service life, where is it located and can it be replaced by an AS owner?
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Hi, I don't know how long Airstream has been using a built-in water pressure regulator, but it is located, and part of, your water inlet.
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05-01-2016, 08:23 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2015 25' Flying Cloud
GILBERT
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2015
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AS has these parts for around $40, we were at a State Park last summer and before I knew it, it blew out the AS regulator. Stop in Denver and fix in 1 hour, now I check water at all camp grounds, and all better to be safe than sorry.
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05-03-2016, 07:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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What pressure is the AS regulator set at?
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05-03-2016, 08:15 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
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Join Date: Jul 2010
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60 psi, iirc.
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05-03-2016, 08:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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Thanks!
Quote:
Originally Posted by dznf0g
60 psi, iirc.
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