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Old 07-26-2015, 12:12 PM   #1
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25ft Safari fb. The fresh water is draining into the gray water tank. Takes about 2 days. My valves are set according to the book. I have no flooding. Does anyone know if there is valve position that could be open. Is the very bottom valve in the right position. Thanks
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Old 07-26-2015, 12:46 PM   #2
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Your valve settings look right to me, but those are all associated with the water heater. I believe the lower valve on the floor is the water heater drain tank. Short of an extreme plumbing error in manufacturing, I don't know any way water could be getting into the gray tank from the fresh tank without you knowing about it. The gray tank is fed by the shower and the two sinks. If you are losing water from the fresh tank into the gray tank you should see it in a sink or the shower and you should hear the pump running.

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As noted above there should be No Path for fresh water to get to the gray water tank other than from a faucet and sewer drainage piping.

With the fresh water tank full, disconnect from city water, and turn the pump on. If there is water going to the gray water tank other than when you are using fresh water you will here the pump short cycling from time to time.

My first guess is you are using far more water than you think you are. Most new campers can fill a gray water tank in 2 days.
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Old 07-26-2015, 01:09 PM   #4
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Is this a new issue?

Is your water pump cycling on/off in short cycles?
Check for leaking faucet valves. Turn off the pump when not in use. Is water still going to the grey tank?

Another possibility is, and please don't take this wrong, how much water is draining to the grey tank? Have you refilled the fresh tank, and drained the grey tank to see if the amount of water is equivalent? Or are you using the Micro Pulse monitor as a guide? It's possible if there are no leaking faucets, the Micro Pulse is acting up?

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I agree with Howie's last suggestion as well about not realizing water use. I've seen experienced campers do it as well.
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As noted above there should be No Path for fresh water to get to the gray water tank other than from a faucet and sewer drainage piping.

With the fresh water tank full, disconnect from city water, and turn the pump on. If there is water going to the gray water tank other than when you are using fresh water you will here the pump short cycling from time to time.

My first guess is you are using far more water than you think you are. Most new campers can fill a gray water tank in 2 days.
Thanks for your response. I am not using the trailer, so no water used. Filled the fresh water tank Fri. Morning. Today it's on yellow. Lots of water coming out of gray tank which was totally empty fri. Morning. No taps open, no sounds of dripping water .... I'm mystified. If I get this figured out, I'll inform you. Thanks
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I agree with Howie's last suggestion as well about not realizing water use. I've seen experienced campers do it as well.
I'm not using the trailer. Just constantly filling the tank and draining the gray. Tomorrow I will Can-am to see if they can shed light. Thanks anyway. Joyce
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Is this a new issue?

Is your water pump cycling on/off in short cycles?
Check for leaking faucet valves. Turn off the pump when not in use. Is water still going to the grey tank?

Another possibility is, and please don't take this wrong, how much water is draining to the grey tank? Have you refilled the fresh tank, and drained the grey tank to see if the amount of water is equivalent? Or are you using the Micro Pulse monitor as a guide? It's possible if there are no leaking faucets, the Micro Pulse is acting up?

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I'm not using the trailer. Just emptying and filling. The amount going out is equivalent the the amount going out. Thanks for you response. Joyce
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I'm not using the trailer. Just emptying and filling. The amount going out is equivalent the the amount going out. Thanks for you response. Joyce
I meant to say "the amount going IN is equivalent to the amount going OUT". J
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How about......

Make sure the water heater and pump are turned off. Then close every valve in the trailer. Wait a day or so and check water levels in the tanks. If the grey tank is empty, then open valves one at time beginning at the fresh water tank. Wait a day and check levels again. Next day, open another valve and repeat the process, etc, etc.

Time consuming, but you may be able to discover a misrouted line someplace.

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Can you quantify "yellow" and "lots coming out"

Yes an older gray water tank that has been drained will have additional water in it after a short time. The side walls of the tank have scum on them and will release a small amount of water after a drain. but not gallons.

If the fresh water tank had a leak and was leaking into the belly pan that would account for a lose in that tank. But there is no way for that water to get into the gray water tank and thus out trough the gray water tank valve.

Inquiring people want to know.
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Do any of the appliances in the 2008 AS have drip pans under them? Like the hot water heater?
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Kinda curious of you ever figured this one out?? Any news?

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