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Old 08-21-2013, 09:06 AM   #29
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thats "pedantry" - sorry, could not resist
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:14 AM   #30
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MrUKToad - im a bit confused...when you use your sewer solution at a dump station...if that water hose will not fit for tank flush, it still will allow the hose for the quick disconnect for the ss? If so, you could disconnect that hose...put on tank flush....flush.....then re-connect it to the ss? sorry, bit of a tangent.
Good point, well made. SS is out when there's no connectable hose!
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:24 AM   #31
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thats "pedantry" - sorry, could not resist
I'm a nit-picker, not a good speller. I'm just glad someone else also knew what that word meant! While my ego is so big that my head's now bigger than my hair (look to the image at left for proof of that!) it kind of spoils the effect of using obscure words when all one get's is a "Huh?" reaction.
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im trying to understand something else...as it relates to concerns about proximity...contamination...which hose where....etc...

what are you rinsing exactly and how? I mean...if you hook up your slinky lets say nice and snug...then empty black, then grey, then perhaps tank flush (although if you do tank flush, I guess you should save that for after tank flush)...anyway...everything is ran and what you see in your sewer hose window is clear....then disconnect stuff....but then at that point what are you rinsing?

Seems a bit tricky in my mind the idea of spraying water at some soiled area as you may create a force of water that bounces back and brings with it droplets of "stuff" in water....

If you flush everything out right...why do you end up needing to rinse anything? And if you do rinse, I guess one needs to be careful and not spray things under pressure...just let gentle water flow on it...just a thought perhaps....

Why on earth would they put the tank flush above the fresh water inlet, oh boy....not sure where mine will be...but seems reasonble for them to be in some other orientation....
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I'm a nit-picker, not a good speller. I'm just glad someone else also knew what that word meant! While my ego is so big that my head's now bigger than my hair (look to the image at left for proof of that!) it kind of spoils the effect of using obscure words when all one get's is a "Huh?" reaction.
hahaha, I am a horrific spellr BELIEVE ME!!

Only pedants know what a pedant is I feel like....your verbal IQ score is likely pretty good there protaganist

Pedantry in this realm....on forums in particular...is a very useful attribute! More detail helps reduce confusion for newbies!
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what are you rinsing exactly and how? I mean...if you hook up your slinky lets say nice and snug...then empty black, then grey, then perhaps tank flush...anyway...everything is ran and what you see in your sewer hose window is clear....then disconnect stuff....but then at that point what are you rinsing?
The way I would do it if I had a slinky rather than a macerator pump is:
1 - Empty black tank.
2 - Flush black tank.
3 - Empty gray tank.
4 - Put slinky away.

However, if you're one of those people who lets gray water run on the ground, so that when you go to the dump station you are only dumping your black tank, you've got to rinse your slinky when you're done.

In my opinion (and it's only my opinion, worth exactly 2˘ just like everyone else's) rinsing your slinky after dumping your gray tank is optional. Though you certainly may want to rinse the outside of your slinky if the area around the dump station isn't really clean, since that's the part you're touching…
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:54 AM   #35
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Hope it's actually the other way around, with your sewer flush connection BELOW the external water supply connection. Fresh always above waste, so gravity flows from clean to dirty.
You make a point but our sewer flush is above the external water connection.

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Old 08-21-2013, 10:01 AM   #36
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Planning a fairly lengthy trip; I do not want to carry any more hoses than I need to.

Is there any real danger in using the water hose to flush the sewer?
Yes,
If you use the same hose, you will develop a serious condition, the first signs of which are light headedness and a desire to have others drive.

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You make a point but our sewer flush is above the external water connection.
Eww! Bad designer! Bad! Bad! Go stand in the corner and think about what you've done! (Not you, dkottum, you're a victim here…)
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:36 AM   #38
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The procedure that I follow is.
1- Open black tank....wait till it seems drained
2-Turn on water for sewer flush
3 Open gray tank
4- let everything run for about 5 mins.
5- shut off water to sewer flush
6- lift slinky to make sure it is drained
7- turn on sewer flush again for a couple minutes.
8-turn off water and close valves lift slinky to drain.
9- disconnect slinky from TT and cap end lift vertical to drain well

I also connect the male and female ends of my fresh water hose while being stored. Seems like a way to keep it as clean as possible.

I also use a bit of calgonite water softener in my gray and black tanks to keep things slippery in there. I also add a bit of the green liquid soap (name escapes me...think the Alzheimer's is kicking in). Maybe a half a capful each. I also bleach all my tanks at least once a year. Ad a cup of bleach to fresh water tank let it sit a day or two. I then use that water to fill both the gray and black tank. Let them sit a day or two and empty. I then fill them with fresh water and a bit of mineral oil to the tanks and open and close the valves as emptying them to lubricate the seals after being exposed to the bleach.

I replaced the plastic toilet with a porcelain one recently and I wasn't looking forward to doing that....but there was virtually no odder and the plastic inside the tank was amazingly clean.
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You make a point but our sewer flush is above the external water connection.

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Same here: The flusher port is right above the city water connection (the fresh tank inlet is off to the side). This is on a 2013 25FB Flying Cloud.

And here's a case where it pays to read the directions: The flusher instructions say to first disconnect the hose to the flusher at the far end, and leave it on the ground for a while. This causes the water to drain out of the flusher pipe. Then when you disconnect from the trailer, you don't get a flow of water (but still a few drops). I've done it both ways, and it does make a difference. But still, we always spray the fresh water connection with bleach solution when hooking up.

As for the original question on this thread, we keep separate hoses for flushing and for water supply.
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Good discussion here.

Because of the sewer flush connection above the external water connection, I'm leaning toward using the external water supply line on the sewer flush as well, rather than a dedicated contaminated hose that will most probably dribble down onto my external water connection.

Thinking about for the safest possible method here. I think it has a lot to do with sensible precautions in use of this equipment.

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No, it doesn't - at least not on any trailers I've seen. The pipes from the gray tank run to the same sewer connection, but it doesn't pass through the black tank on the way.

What the previous posters were describing is that the gray tank flush will 'clean' the sewer hose after dumping the black. The gray tank itself doesn't do anything for the black tank.

You do only dump one tank at a time, right? The normal procedure is to dump the black tank, let it finish, close the valve, then open the gray tank. Also, you shouldn't feel shy about putting more liquid in the black tank to help it dump and keep things from solidifying in there. Some people fill it up with water every time before they dump; I don't think that's quite necessary, but you should have a good amount of water in there. (Note, some newer trailers have the bathroom sink draining into the black tank, which is a GREAT idea for helping to (a) get more liquid in that tank, and (b) reduce the odds of filling the gray tank, which is a common problem.)

I use my fresh water hose for rinsing out the sewer hose, but I'm careful to keep it AWAY from the sewer hose opening. It's probably best to use a separate hose for hooking up to the tank flusher (and rinsing the sewer hose for that matter), but I have to admit I've used my fresh water hose for that once or twice.
ooooo....no wonder the first sewer flush was so grimy. I just learned something. The poor FaN! I'm surprised it has survived its dufus owner so well.

Lots of replies to study. Thank-you everyone!

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A dilemma for the designer. The sewer flush connection probably had to be higher than the sink traps. Both this and the ext water hookup need convenient accessibility from interior, on my trailer only under the bath sink cabinet. It must be street side somewhat near the dump valves.

So I suppose there is a logic to the arrangement, making the best of limited choices.

Now the user dilemma, to make the best choice of which hose, clean or not-so-clean, to flush the sewer system, with the probability that either will dribble down onto the external water connection.

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