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Old 09-21-2007, 10:23 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by CA Streamer
Wow. That is major. Out of curiosty, what is the physical size diference between the different sizes. Where do you stow them when you travel?

hi ca streamer...

they are about the size of the LARGEST samsonite clam shell suit cast...

camping world has the exact dimensions listed on line.

mine goes in the long bed truck...

but smaller ones can be carried in the shower stall too....

some folks strap 'em on the back or onto a roof rack...

lots of creative blue tote haulers out there...


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Old 09-22-2007, 02:24 AM   #30
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The Avion doesnt have a grey tank, and when we boondock, its usually in a state park next to a reservoir, where they frown on grey water dumping, So Ive gotten pretty familiar with our toter.
It's a 15gallon 2 wheeled one (dont remember the brand name off the top of my head)
It has a big metal bar that goes trough the handle to attatch to the tow ball and the tank rides at about a 45 degree angle. I like this setup better because theres no front wheels to catch on anything and if I misjudge an obsticle in the road, it will just drag over it.
I have been able to tow it through some pretty rough roads.
The key is in the warning lable on the tank saying "walking spead only"
If your worried about upgrading the wheels with bearing buddies and a set of 12"X2" electric brakes, your probably pulling it to fast

Its size makes it managable and fits in the back of the truck nicely.
Ive considered buying another one, and connecting the vent port on one to the fill port on the other with the little 3/4" hose they give you. So when the first fills, it overlfows into the 2nd, and I have 30 gallon capacity without having to wrestle a bohemouth to dump it.

When boondocking with a family of 4 (2 adults, a 2 year old, and a 5 year old who says his "ABCs" in full when washing his hands), Weve strectched it to a day and a half.
We only have a 10 gallon fresh tank, and a 10 gallon hw heater. Figure some of it gets diverted to the 10gal black tank, so we run out of water about the same time the toter fills up.

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Old 09-22-2007, 05:45 AM   #31
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I started with a 32 gal. Blue tote when I got my trailer. Once it was filled, it weighed about 250 #. You have to tow it to the dump station. Sometimes the dump station was 1-3 miles away on gravel roads. Those cheap plastic wheels just couldn't hold up. I sold the 32 gal. tank and got two 10 gal. Blue totes. Once filled, I pick them up (< 100 #) and put them in the bed of my pick-up to take to the dump station.
Seriously consider the smaller tanks, particularly if the dump station where you're going is a long way from your camp site. If you have your heart set on a larger (and more expensive) tank, consider putting pneumatic rubber tires on it if you can. That will make it even more expensive.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:10 PM   #32
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Since it is 14 miles one way to dump & water some places we boondock . We have a 100 gal black/gray tank and 100 gal fresh water tank in the back of our Excursion.The tank is equipped with 3" drain hose, it is dumped just like you would dump your trailer and we load it from the trailer using a Macerator pump and 3/4th " hose.For how to do go to www. click on RV travel resources, click on "We did away with the blue boy".
Our 100 gal fresh water tank has a Shurflo pump hooked to it.(same pump that trailer uses)It is pluged in to one of the many 12v power plugs in the SUV and the hose is hooked to the trailers normal street side city water connection.This way you turn water on in trailer pump runs, turn water off in trailer pump stops.(Just like your pump in the trailer)
With this system we can stay as long as we want to and never have to move the trailer.We love boondocking with this system and wife can shower as much as want.
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:29 PM   #33
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Jack, just for something to do today, I filled our 18 gallon "grey" tote, and hooked it to the back of the electric cart. I scooted around with it for 3-4 blocks inside the park, no problems. I DID notice when the tote is only half full, I got some sway from the water sloshing.
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Old 09-22-2007, 05:22 PM   #34
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I wonder how difficult it would be to permanently mount a 40 gal transfer tank under the bed of my truck? With that setup, and a portable macerator pump hooked up to the trailer, trips to the dump station would be a piece of cake! Since the transfer tank would be empty most of the time it wouldn't create any problem with gas mileage. As for power to the pump, you could just tape an extension cord to the garden hose and plug it into the trailer outlet on the truck. This departs somewhat from the original tote tank question but I believe that it's closely related.

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Old 09-22-2007, 05:25 PM   #35
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First Tote I bought was a Thetford. At first I liked the stowable hose and shut off feature. But the 3" filler hose attaches to the tote at the bottom, you'd never get the tote full. I returned it and found a 25 gal. blue tote on craig's list for $50.00 + shipping. Fills at the top, currently is not towable, but thats' not to hard to fix.

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Old 09-22-2007, 05:55 PM   #36
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Originally Posted by dnrtheil
First Tote I bought was a Thetford. At first I liked the stowable hose and shut off feature. But the 3" filler hose attaches to the tote at the bottom, you'd never get the tote full. I returned it and found a 25 gal. blue tote on craig's list for $50.00 + shipping. Fills at the top, currently is not towable, but thats' not to hard to fix.

Good point, if you are running with the grey tank open into the tote, then I could understand why it might be difficult to fill the tote. My plan is to use the holding tank in the trailer and dump to the tote when the trailer tank gets to a certain point on the sensor (that level is something I would plan to test before we leave in November). The weight of the water in the tank being higher than the tote, should fill the tote.

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Old 09-22-2007, 06:18 PM   #37
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How's the tank moving

Like Volvophile I only have one tank and it is not very big; 14 galons. I found the 15 gallon Barker that I had was obviously adequate, but as big as I would care to wrestle with if I had to move it very far (other than towing). I just traded the old hardware from the original awning for a second one today. I did find that a trip per 15gallons was a bit much. I can pull a 15gallon up my ramp and into my truck so I think the second will be fine. The 2 should travel in the shower just fine. Cosider if you are going to move these by hand or will you aways tow them. I have not had a wheel come off or gone down more than a hundred yards of gravel, but having a 30 go and maybe split may be more of a mess than a smaller tank. The main thing are you moving the tank. If always towing, then a 4 wheel (get a quality name...not a cheapie) pull along would be just the thing. If you may put these into the bed of a pick up truck, consider that water weighs 8.34 Lb./gallon! I like the idea of trying a couple with water in them.

And do fill all at once. Don't leave the valve open, you will accelerate the scum build up. Good luck!
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Old 09-22-2007, 07:51 PM   #38
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I have a 22gal blue tote (2 wheel) and it can be a problem in sand or pulling it through a rough area getting it to the TV. It is heavy when over 1/2 full= approx 100lbs when 3/4 or more VERY heavy.
Also driving at walking speed to the dump station if any distance on a rough road can be a pain.
I would think 4 wheel & up grade to rubber wheels is the way to go.


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