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Old 04-06-2016, 10:49 AM   #1
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RV toilet paper vs "Septic safe" paper?

Are they interchangeable?? We're in for a long haul and RV TP is not readily available. Is there a problem with "septic safe" ??
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It's fine.
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Welcome to the forum CoolCat!

To be conservative, the TP should be single-ply, and proper TP etiquette should be followed for RV black water holding tanks:

-- water and holding tank chemicals in tank before solids/TP go in
-- minimum use of TP -- nothing else goes in tank except human waste
-- low proportion of TP to total tank contents
-- TP is allowed 2-3 days to break down
-- trailer is taken on the road to agitate contents just before dumping
-- black water tank is topped off +/- before dumping
.....(do not dump an almost-empty tank -- need a whoosh volume of liquid going down)

This much detail may seem crazy, but you would be surprised at what some people have had to fish out of the discharge end of an RV sewer pipe! Not a pleasant job . . .
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Any "septic safe" TP is fine, single-ply is better than double-ply. Even though you may "double up" the single-ply, it seems to break down more quickly than the double-ply. We've been on the road for eight months now and DO NOT use "RV TP," only single-ply "septic safe" available at any store.
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RV/Boat TP, What a wonderful marketing schemes. Wish I had thought of it first.
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RV/Boat TP, What a wonderful marketing schemes. Wish I had thought of it first.
RV/Marine TP is a clever way to charge more for an inferior product. Now if only there was "Aviation TP" they could charge as much as gold!
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:54 AM   #7
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RV/Marine TP is in fact fabricated differently, so you have to be careful with how hard you push on it when trying to remove solid material from certain areas -- the paper will tear at just the worst time . . .

Maybe that is seen as an inferior product from some angles, but you will never find this specialized TP as "paper" compacted at the discharge end of the sewer.

Depends on priorities IMO -- had enough sewer discharge problems because some people abuse the regular TP protocol . . . .

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This tongue in cheek test may be of interest to you:
http://www.thefitrv.com/rv-tips/toil...with-children/
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We now have a macerating toilet in our 2016 FC so we flush the paper but previously we put the paper Ina step can beside the stool. No odor, no problems.
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Huh. Illuminating.
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We have a fairly substantial history of RV black tank usage. We are closing in on 1,800 nights of Airstream camping over the last ten years.

We use our in-house toilet pretty exclusively, and rarely use any campground facilities. Until about two years ago, we used Camco brand RV toilet paper exclusively. The prevailing wisdom was that this was the way to avoid black tank clog problems. We never made any effort to curtail the use of toilet paper. All went very well, and we never had a single issue in this area.

Then about two years ago, we read a thread here on the Forums similar to this one. Several member said that they were using Angel Soft Brand 2-ply Septic Safe toilet paper. We decided to give it a try. We are now at about 400 nights of camping using the Angel Soft and have not yet experienced a single toilet clog issue.

We do usually fill the black tank to 90% capacity before dumping, and there is most often substantial road travel to mix things up.

As to using single ply toilet toilet paper vs. 2-ply, we much prefer the 2-ply. We tried using single ply years back and found that we just used twice as much to get the job done.

As to cost, the Camco 2-ply RV toilet paper is about $1.25 per roll at Wal-Mart, and even higher at an RV store. We can routinely find the Angel Soft on sale at Publix for about 35 cents a roll. That's a pretty substantial price difference.

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Another solution

We have a totally different solution to this "problem." Our solution is a battery operated stainless steel (so it matches our AS!) wastebasket that we keep in the bathroom. When you wave your hand over it, the cover opens - which is what the battery / sensor is for.

We simply drop all toilet paper into the wastebasket, with a plastic liner of course, that so no paper at all goes into our tank. When it gets full, we just dispose of it and add a new liner. Easy.

And the answer to your next question is "NO." Things only smell when there is water present, which there isn't in the wastebasket. The antomatic lid helps also.

We owned a summer house for 30 or so years, and it had an "ify" septic tank and field. We started doing this because of that, and it worked so well for 30 years that we never had to pump it out. We tried once, but there was not enough in there to pump. It sort of tells you how much of a problem TP is to begin with. . . . .

Anyway, we buy any old TP and never worry about it.
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We now have a macerating toilet in our 2016 FC so we flush the paper but previously we put the paper Ina step can beside the stool. No odor, no problems.

Do all the new Airstreams come withe macerating toilets. I had one in my sailboat that was broke about 50% of the time.
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We use septic safe toilet paper and never have had a problem - have also used the stuff we have at the house and never have had a problem either (this is our 5th AS).

One thing I’ve done prior to moving from one location to another is flush one of those dishwasher detergent packets (with spot-free rinse!) & plenty of water, down the commode. The movement and agitation on the road helps dissolve it and clean the black tank. When I get to the RV site, I dump the contents and rinse the hose with whats left in the gray water tank (usually just a shower & some dish water). So far, it’s kept the level indicator accurate due to clean(er) walls in the tank. Never had a problem with black tank odors, either.
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