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Old 11-04-2009, 08:39 AM   #15
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Radio shack may be a good source for that style rocker switch.

Try this link too, can't determine if the switch is LED backlit or not:
http://www.mouser.com/Electromechani...switch&FS=True
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:10 AM   #16
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Ok, maybe this is a silly question, but can’t you just replace the pump switch with a lighted version? All the trailers I’ve ever had have a lighted pump switch. Am I missing something?

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Perhaps the shorter trailers are different, but our 31 classic has two switches one in the galley and one in the bathroom, like a two way (sometimes called three way) light switch in a house. If a lighted switch or pilot light was used at either switch, it could only tell what position the switch was in, not whether or not the pump had power, and depending on how the switches are wired, might not even tell you that much.
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Old 11-04-2009, 09:34 AM   #17
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My LPG monitor wires are yellow and red. The Fresh, grey and black are flat telephone wire. The orange is hot for the pump.
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Old 11-04-2009, 01:35 PM   #18
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i replaced the oem pump with the MUCH quieter/higher flow...

'extreme series, 4.0' per lews suggestion.

install was easy but you will need a LARGER prefilter/screen that is NOT in the pump box (~20$)

it is nice BUT "pump left ON" problems are potentially greater since it IS so much quieter and smooth while running...

so my solution was to TAPE 2 OFF the 2nd water pump switch in the lav area...

no more dueling water pump switches 2 confuse me!

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Yes, I was doing the same Extreme Series 4.0 replacement -- and had taken note of Lewster's comments a couple years back.

I will post a how-to thread shortly. As you say, I did note the recommendation to install the SHURflo model #255 strainer. I've got this 1/2" pipe diameter OEM strainer right now -
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Changing it out looks to be a lot easier than I first thought. It's got a 1/2" pipe thread thumb nut on the water tank side just out of the picture. And I could eliminate an elbow in the process!

2air - you did the #255? Does it have a larger strainer surface area than the one I've already got? Model 255-323. It really looks similar in size to the OEM. Thoughts?
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:17 PM   #19
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You'd think instant replay would be allowed here at AIR...

The similarity of the twistoff section knurling, the orange O ring inside and everything else made me want to look closer. I went out with a front-surface dental mirror and the trouble light. Open wide! A photo and flipping it in Photoshop is proof - model #255-213.
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The Shurflo link in my last post shows that 255-213 is the number for the OEM strainer; 255-323 is the same strainer for the aftermarket. Looks like I'm on spec. Stumble into good fortune occasionally, don't we?
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well bob since we've totally HIJACKED your own thread now...

just install the pump here!

based on my watered down brain recall, your link is in error.

both extreme series pumps use the 254 series strainer...

quoting the BOXed instructions...

"•Use an Extreme Series High-Flow water strainer [Model # 254-266]"

so the extreme series 4.0 that i installed does have the 254-xx strainer.

the BOWL is larger and perhaps more robust, a little more surface on the screen inside.

don't use the 255-xx with the extreme series pump.

negatory bob.

of course my wet cells may be flooded with bad juju too...
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here's the schematic for the install on the 4.0...

and the strainer is noted near the end of page 1, which is the BOTTOM of the pdf (page 2 is at the top)

http://legacy.shurflo.com/pdf/rv/911...-B_English.pdf
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with the W word season approaching, why not wait till spring for this install?

could be new wata pumps by then; at the very least you won't be wasting 5 months of warranty.
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i like the extreme 4.0 for 2 reasons...

1. it is virtually vibration free, only a few seconds at first flow then totally smooth/quiet, and not ANYWHERE as rattlin' at the oem pump.
2. it has NOT failed yet. (i went through 3 of the oem pumps during the 2 years of warranty)

BUT the volume/flow isn't really that great, nowhere near the 4.0 claim/spec, base on simply measuring/timing the water flow.

for the first 2-3 minutes flow is AWESOME, then it seems to dial back some.

i noticed this in the shower, so i guess it serves a purpose to remind me about usage.
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based on having one for ~2 years now, i might go with the 5.7 liter version if given a mulligan.

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Old 11-04-2009, 08:22 PM   #21
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I see that you got your answer to the blue wire question. It is part of the Solar prewire package. Here is a picture of my unit that shows the blue cat5 wire clearly marked "solar".

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Old 11-04-2009, 11:17 PM   #22
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Lightbulb Duhhh!!!!!!!!!!

Going over this thread for the umpteenth time, trying to figure why some of the replies seemed strange to me, I just figured out that there was a blue jacketed multi-conductor cable. Somehow I got it stuck in my mind, that there was a blue wire and a separate bundle of colored wires.
I may not read accurately, but I retain the inaccuracies well.
Sorry for the responses that didn't make sense.
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Old 11-10-2009, 11:18 AM   #23
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well bob since we've totally HIJACKED your own thread now...

just install the pump here!

based on my watered down brain recall, your link is in error.

both extreme series pumps use the 254 series strainer...

quoting the BOXed instructions...

"•Use an Extreme Series High-Flow water strainer [Model # 254-266]"

so the extreme series 4.0 that i installed does have the 254-xx strainer.

the BOWL is larger and perhaps more robust, a little more surface on the screen inside.

don't use the 255-xx with the extreme series pump.

negatory bob.

of course my wet cells may be flooded with bad juju too...
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here's the schematic for the install on the 4.0...

and the strainer is noted near the end of page 1, which is the BOTTOM of the pdf (page 2 is at the top)

http://legacy.shurflo.com/pdf/rv/911...-B_English.pdf
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Thanks 2Air & Bob

I have bought the Extreme 4.0 pump & have to do the install yet (just like CanoeStream) so appreciate this part list. I hate starting a project only to find I have to order parts yet...

This is very useful info.

Thanks

-evan


I see that the link here: http://legacy.shurflo.com/pages/RV/r...aterSysAcc.htm
offers the suggestion that the 255 series strainer should or could be used with the Extreme 4.0. I guess if it fits, the downside is that if the water is more turbid or has more debris, the 255 series filter will clog or offer more resistance to flow sooner than the bigger surface area 254 series strainer.
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I see that the link here: Water System Accessories
offers the suggestion that the 255 series strainer should or could be used with the Extreme 4.0. I guess if it fits, the downside is that if the water is more turbid or has more debris, the 255 series filter will clog or offer more resistance to flow sooner than the bigger surface area 254 series strainer.
hi evan

yeah i saw that too.

don't ya just love conflicting guidance?

i purchased the 4.0 in a brick/mortar rv shop locally.

the old guy working there said EVERYONE he'd sold this extreme series pump to that TRIED using the smaller strainer (255)

had issues or problems with poor flow or pump failure or NOISE.

i don't think he was blowing smoke up my backside,

because i already had a NEW 255 (left over, purchased elsewhere) and he willing exchanged it for the 254 strainer.

the fittings DO appear to be exactly the same so it should fit.

my concern would be if the 255 in any way IMPEDS water flowing INTO the pump, that might unduly stress the internals.

you should CALL or email shurflo tech support about this.

and if you do, post back the official 411.

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