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09-01-2012, 06:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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PEX crimpers are there any good ones?
Well I have had my first experience with PEX. I bought one of those pocket crimper deals that you use with vise grips. I can tell you that this is not the way to go for a main tool. I would say it is good for occasional or emergency use but it is not practical for more than two or three crimps before your forearms are toast. It also takes repeated crimp tighten, crimp tighten cycles to get a good crimp. It might be good for tight spaces but it is not very easy to use even when you have plenty of room to work.
So does anyone have any experience with a better crimper that does not cost over $100 and will do multiple sizes like 3/8", 1/2", and 3/4"? I want something that crimps the copper rings not the stainless steel pinch clamps. I don't think that pinching on the sides is as good as a continous ring.
Perry
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09-01-2012, 06:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1968 28' Ambassador
Cedaredge
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,542
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I have one of those for tight spots and the big cable cutter type in 1/2 inch only from Home Depot for $49 I think. Since I have never had need for 3/8 or 3/4 I just stuck with the 1/2 inch. The pocket one will do bigger if I need it. These big ones work great and I have never had a leak, and your arms don't get tiered.
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09-01-2012, 06:50 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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Viega
Even though it is much more than you want to spend I recommend Viega. I have this tool and use this system. "Spend the big bucks and do it right the first time" says Dennis.
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09-01-2012, 07:54 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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I have a multi size PEX crimper from Home Depot, it is well made and works very well. As I recall it was about $90. It has a plastic case included which holds all the parts. I can't recall the name, and I am not home now to look, but I think it is the one sold at all the Home Depots.
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09-01-2012, 08:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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Lowes has a tool that works with the stainless steel crimp rings for both 3/8 and 1/2 for about 40 bucks. Works fine. Not really a ratchet like they say but it does work well. Sometimes you have to look for them in the store, and not all stores have the same thing. I saw a longer one for about 100, but am happy with the short one. Stays in the trailer with a pack of rings. So far in 2 years I have not had a joint I made leak. I have done a couple over when it did not "feel" right. A good tip with pex is to buy the cutting tool also. A clean, straight cut is a big help in getting the joints assembled tightly. If the cut is an an angle or fuzzy it is hard to get and hold the tube all the way up in the fitting when crimping.
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09-01-2012, 08:01 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
Sioux Falls
, South Dakota
Join Date: Jun 2010
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I got my 1/2" crimper at Menards. It's a long handle type. I think I paid $45 or $50. It works first time every time. Everything tested with no leaks at all. I did use sharkbite connectors where the space was tight.
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09-01-2012, 08:14 PM
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Rivet Master
Southwestern
, Ohio
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,671
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Quote:
Originally Posted by perryg114
Well I have had my first experience with PEX. I bought one of those pocket crimper deals that you use with vise grips. I can tell you that this is not the way to go for a main tool. I would say it is good for occasional or emergency use but it is not practical for more than two or three crimps before your forearms are toast.
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Unless you do a lot of PEX work I wouldn't especially recommend investing $100+ in a PEX crimper.
I use one of the "pocket crimper deals"
The Pex Pocket Crimper- For permanent crimp connections with PEX tubing fittings
but like yourself, I quickly discovered a Vise Grip pliers was not the best way to squeeze it. I use a small machinist's vise like the one pictured and it gives me a perfect crimp every time. Not fast, but can be used in tight spaces and doesn't require heroic strength. . . just patience.
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09-01-2012, 08:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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Yeah I used my big shop vise and it was still a PIA to use.
Perry
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09-02-2012, 06:33 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1954 22' Flying Cloud
Saline
, Michigan
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 854
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Got the long handled crimper from HD, they work great. You can cheap some things on your build but good water tight connections are worth their weight in gold...esp once every thing is back together. Spend the extra moola a good set. I know money wise they ain't cheap but neither is the hassle of a re-tear down...
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09-02-2012, 06:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1980 31' Excella II
Springfield
, Illinois
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 56
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Look at the crimpers made by Sioux Chief and sold at Menards. Have used the crimpers in over 100 homes and finally wore one out. Crimps 1/2 and 3/4 and never had a leak.
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09-02-2012, 09:00 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2004 30' Classic Slideout
Between Here
, And There
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 379
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Have you thought about the tool rental places? Even the Home Depot in our area rents the Professional crimper at a very low daily rate.
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09-02-2012, 10:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1988 25' Excella
1987 32' Excella
Knoxville
, Tennessee
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 5,118
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Not sure why people freak out at paying 50-100 for a tool that does good work and will last a long time and actully makes plumbing closer to fun. You could hire a Airstream tech that already has one and he will probably charge you 50-100 to get his out of his tool box and put it back in.
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09-04-2012, 05:06 PM
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4 Rivet Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 488
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill M.
Not sure why people freak out at paying 50-100 for a tool that does good work and will last a long time and actully makes plumbing closer to fun. You could hire a Airstream tech that already has one and he will probably charge you 50-100 to get his out of his tool box and put it back in.
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That is a fact. Buy the right tool for the job.
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09-04-2012, 06:12 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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I just bought a Shark Bite tool for like $60 at Home Depot and is appears to be well made. However, it won't compress the copper rings enough to fit the go gage that came with it. I increased the preload and it still won't compress the ring according to the gage. The gage might fit on the flattened edges where the part is in the tool jaws but it is iffy. So what is the problem here. Is there something wrong with the tool or what?
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...&storeId=10051
Perry
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09-04-2012, 06:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 20
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Kooskia
, Idaho
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 4,591
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I am home now and just went to look at my PEX tool number. It is a Shark Bite 23100 from Home Depot. I have used it on two jobs now, one a re-plumb of a mobile home and the other the 22' Argosy copper replacement job. Both went well and were 100% leak free when I turned the water on.
Perry: Is this the tool you purchased at Home Depot? Mine had no problems and the go/no go gauge, while not fitting around every place on the crimp ring, did go around at least one location on each ring, which is what I think is the way it was meant to do.
I think you may be fine with yours if you can pass the gauge around the fitting in any location.
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09-04-2012, 06:34 PM
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Rivet Master
1969 31' Sovereign
Broken Arrow
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,455
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If you are just making repairs why not use a Shark Bite? No tool required and really easy to use I have never had one leak and stick&brick code allows you to use them behind walls.
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Garry
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09-04-2012, 08:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 Argosy 28
Fresno/Clovis
, California
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 704
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I used the $26 pocket crimper, and my vise, which is mounted on a 4 legged stand. I did all the crimps making a manifold, one for hot, one for cold. I made them outside the AS, then after installed in the trailer, I made the final kitchen crimps, by bringing my vise into the trailer. All crimps tested good with the go/nogo guage first time, and no leaks.
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