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Old 09-18-2012, 04:32 PM   #15
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I've been saying "Gee, wouldn't it be something to be doing these upgrades and modifications on a new Airstream trailer" for the last FIVE years... Can I post scary pictures for you of truly end-stage Airstreams? Would that help?
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:50 PM   #16
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You mentioned that you had frost on the trailer several mornings. On our Bambi, the frost melts in the early morning and drips down the sides of the trailer. Those water stains on the side of your Airstream, just above the arrow farthest to the right, could be the tracks from melting frost. If you were to catch the water and measure it, you'd be surprised how much condenses on the outside skin.

In the evening, if you tape a dry paper towel over that water path near the bottom of your trailer, you'll be able to tell for sure in the morning. I'll bet that paper towel is soaked. Of course, this only works if it isn't raining.

As for the tank sensors, we gave up on ours several years ago. One of our friends, who had the same model Bambi that we do, just spent several hundred dollars getting the sensors and wiring replaced; and one of them has stopped working again.

We boondock a lot and have tested the capacity of our gray and black water tanks; and thus have given up on using the tank monitors. The black tank is easy; take a flashlight and look down the hole after flushing. We always fill our tank to the top before dumping, and you'd be surprised how long you have to stand on the flush pedal to fill that tank. I really doubt if you have to worry much about that one.

As for the gray water tank, we have two pre-teen granddaughters that frequently travel with us. We can get two rounds of showers for the four of us out of the fresh water tank plus seven more gallons, which are added after the fresh water tank is empty. So, I don't think you have to worry about the gray water tank overflowing either. The exception is when you are in a campground with full hookups. However, this is usually not a problem, especially if you leave the gray tank draining all the time.

Note: If you have not already heard the horror stories, do NOT leave the black water tank draining all the time. I will not repeat the details here, unless you ask why.
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Old 09-18-2012, 04:56 PM   #17
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Mine was the same.A few leaks here and there.Junk skylights.Outside door that locks on its own.Unreliable tires GYM's.Noisy cheap water pump no pressure in shower.Mattress that I wouldn't even donate when new for fear of retaliation.Foam cushions that are without comfort.Shower doors that lock you in.Bathroom mirrors that fall off for no apparent reason and shatter.Filform corrosion that needs attending to regularly so it does not take over.................

But you know what? I love having my Airstream. It just took a little getting use to. Kinda like a marriage? Haha
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Old 09-18-2012, 05:27 PM   #18
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But you know what? I love having my Airstream. It just took a little getting use to. Kinda like a marriage? Haha
What a great analogy! I can relate, and I really do like the trailer. It's our first. Sometimes I just think I may have bought more than I can afford.

Some of my images may be confusing, especially with the arrows I added. There is no water dripping on the outside vertical panels. The water is leaking under the trailer when the gray tank starts filling.

The frost I mentioned is ground frost. Nothing on the trailer. Temps dropped in the area. I don't want to drive it back from MA to VT in cold weather. Wind chill will drop the temp even more and I don't want to take a chance of anything freezing.

Thanks for listening/reading and thank you all for the replies.

Dinner was good. Beer was cold. As long as I help my wife with the dishes, everything will be fine.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:16 PM   #19
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Nothing will freeze in the trailer. It would have to be down around 29 degrees. All the plumbing runs inside the unit. If your that worried, fire up the heater and put it at 50 degrees. The tanks have heaters as well, I think you only have to turn them on via a toggle switch.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:35 PM   #20
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You have had a frustrating experience, done your best to make this work. It will and you and wife will have many years of enjoyment with your Airstream when the bugs are worked out. I understand the Sport models are quite basic and that will be to your advantage in the long run. We're with you hoping this repair gets things in order.

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Old 09-18-2012, 08:44 PM   #21
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Nothing will freeze in the trailer. It would have to be down around 29 degrees. All the plumbing runs inside the unit. If you're that worried, fire up the heater and put it at 50 degrees. The tanks have heaters as well, I think you only have to turn them on via a toggle switch.

When it was cold here recently, it was in the 30's at night. I could see it getting down to 29 with the wind chill during the six hour drive home. It isn't repaired yet, so I have no idea what the temp will be when I pick it up. It's only dropping to mid-50's tonight, but down to mid-30's tomorrow night. Maybe it will be warm. If it was cold, I suppose I could take a vacation day and make the trip in the day time. It's only a twelve hour round trip.

It's illegal to run the heater in the trailer while driving, but I could pull over ever hour or so to warm her up if needed.

The gray and black tanks on this Safari Sport are heated by warm air from the furnace. No toggle switches. It just has a piece of duct aimed toward the tank.

I was told the external shower was removed because it was leaking due to the trailer not being winterized early. At least that's what the dealer told me. It's on the outside. I suppose I could remove the new one before driving if the temp was low.

It wasn't a matter of worry. It was my opinion on good customer service on a unit that has had too many issues for being "new". I thought they would step up and make it right. I can see both sides. It's an older trailer that sat on one of their dealer's lots for four years. Dealer did not take care of it. Dealer doesn't represent Airstream any more. It's probably easier if I just pay to get it winterized while the leaks are getting fixed.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:44 PM   #22
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You have had a frustrating experience, done your best to make this work. It will and you and wife will have many years of enjoyment with your Airstream when the bugs are worked out. I understand the Sport models are quite basic and that will be to your advantage in the long run. We're with you hoping this repair gets things in order.

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Old 09-19-2012, 07:29 AM   #23
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I made a mistake above, but I guess I can't edit after the thread has been read. It's supposed to be 28 degrees tonight, not mid-30's.
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Old 09-20-2012, 12:54 PM   #24
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Re: getting locked in shower.

Same thing almost happened to me. So, now I hang the awning wand on the outside of the door - just in case. There is enough space at the top of the door to swing the wand over and straighten the latch.

Airstreams are like Thoroughbred horses; you have to out-think them, or else you'll get into trouble.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:06 PM   #25
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Uh, oh... I own a Thoroughbred AND and Airstream!

We've also got the 2008 22' Sport and have had quite a few minor-ish issues, but luckily our dealer is only ten minutes away and almost everything has been covered by warranty. I'm sure I'd have a different attitude if we were trying to haul her twelve hours round trip to get things fixed.
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Old 09-20-2012, 01:20 PM   #26
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leo, neat (Thoroughbreds). My family raised/raced them for over 40 years.
They are sleek, fast, expensive, and a lot of work (not unlike the Airstream!)

I have been involved in everything from cleaning barns to riding them. If you can stop a little problem from escalating, you just might end up with a good horse.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:30 PM   #27
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Update... I left it at the service center for a month. Had to pick it up today because I need to use it soon. There was one thing left to do. The bathroom blind (shade) was coming apart because a piece was missing from the bottom since we bought it. Was told Airstream shipped the wrong part, so it was not done yet. Not a big deal. They took care of everything else.

Had an issue with the closet door not closing right. They pointed out that the wall between the closet and fridge is bowed. Could not be adjusted. Would be a major fix. Instead, they replaced the latch mechanism and now at least it clicks and closes.

Grey tank sensor replaced and calibrated.

The leak underneath that came after showering... they said the shower needed to be re-caulked at the bottom, near the tray for the shower curtain. They did this, tested, and said it was no longer leaking. The same area was also re-caulked when it was in NJ earlier this year. Not sure why it stopped leaking when I drained the grey tank. I hope it's fixed. I won't be able to find out until next Spring, because I paid to have it winterized. It was in the 20's yesterday.

Because it's a 12 hour round trip, I am staying at a campground for the night. Got here and set up the trailer. When I raised the dinette table, I noticed some dark spots down low on the wall. Checked it out. The floor is soaked. Bottom few inches of the wall, under the front window, soaked and brown stained. The seat cushions (bottom and back) on the curb side and very wet (material and foam). This is the area where it leaked earlier this year and was repaired in NJ. With all the driving, gas, campsite fees, vacation time used, etc.... I'm starting to think it would have be cheaper to bring it to Colin Hyde in Plattsburgh, skip the warranty coverage, and pay for it myself. I really don't know. Can't afford to anything else to it right now.

On a positive note, the foliage was beautiful today. Nice ride through New England.
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Old 10-13-2012, 07:40 PM   #28
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What a pain. So sorry to hear of all of the leaks. I'm a bit confused why the dealer didn't notice the leaks and the floor being soaked on two walls of the camper. I strongly think you should find some covered storage over the winter so that the leaks don't cause any more damage.

Then take it to Colin in the spring. Given how well the repair in NJ went, let him work at it. He has a Sealtech leak tester so he can figure out what the issue is.

The cost of a campground, gas, and time off would probably pay for at least 5 hours of time at his shop, which probably would get it close to fixed...

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