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Old 01-20-2011, 05:20 AM   #15
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need bathroom part numbers

[QUOTE=Hansom-Man;909560]I believe that the switches are tied to their own thermostat that kicks in automatically on at freezing temps. The manual is kind enough to inform us that these only last for 3 hrs if running on battery only.

Hi Handsome man,

By any chance is you Flying cloud the rear bathroom? I'm redoing a 1977 Overlander.. With us ladies it's all about textiles and toilets LOL
I'm looking especially for the part numbers for the shower and base. And the the sink counter/sink. A new bathroom will bring this old charm right into the 21st century thanks

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Old 01-12-2014, 01:54 PM   #16
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We've got a 23D (corner bed) and I've found fuses for grey and black water tank heaters (photo attached) but no switches. Back to 1) are they controlled by a fixed thermostat that switches on when temp nears freezing, 2) seems pulling the fuze out is the only workaround to switching them off.

I do remember the manual details matching the notes previously in this thread that the 23FB tanks were heated via the furnace and the 23D tanks were heated with pads. It also notes that switches are available to control the pads.

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Old 01-13-2014, 08:52 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by SilverGate View Post
The tank heater switches are located in our 2007 23' Safari (recently renamed Flying Cloud) in the Vanity sink area just above the Comfort Control thermostat.

Airstream Safari Owners Manual page C-5 states, "The 22 ft. and 23 ft. models have 12-Volt heat pads installed with the fresh, gray, and black water tanks. These pads are individually switched. This feature allows the saving of battery power in a dry camp situation."

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We have a 2008 23FB special edition and it does not have these switches for heating the freshwater, gray, and black tanks. Our is heated by the ducted heating system. It is interesting how much variation there is on these models.
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Old 01-13-2014, 09:53 AM   #18
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On my 2014 FC 20' there are heating pads. I did a complete check of the amp draw of each 12 volt part, but was not able to measure the heat pad draw as apparently they have a thermostat on them, and if turned on in warmer temps they do not heat and use power. So, until I can measure it in cold weather when home (I am at my winter home now, and no AS, sniff) I can't tell you what their draw is.

On the smaller AS, they use a direct vent furnace now, the heat comes out the front of the furnace only and there is no ductwork at all. I assume that is the reason they use the heating pads vs the little heat duct to the tanks. I have never been impressed with the heat duct system for the tanks anyway. Not only does it not deliver much heat but especially the way AS has installed them, the holes through the floor often become a mouse highway between the underbelly and the main cabin. And unless the ends of the 2" ducts have screening on them, the meeses can run right up the tube and into the furnace ducts and probably get out somewhere. I hate meeses and mice, you might note.

The heat pads on my FC only heat the tanks, and there is a good bit of exposed piping outside subject to freeze issues. Why heat the tanks and leave the drain pipes and valves exposed? Does anyone at Airstream consider these things at all, ever? Does anyone who designs them actually ever camp in them? Airstream desperately needs a real world feedback loop which they listen to.
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Old 01-03-2016, 07:13 AM   #19
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My 2008 22' Safari Sport has 110 volt male plugs hanging at the fresh/grey/black tanks. There also exists 3 switches, labelled as fresh/grey/black adjacent to the WFCO power supply, but appear as an "add on" switch panel with no identifying mfr's.

So... my question is... how are these operated?, checked?, tested?

And has anyone considered wrapping the discharge valves with insulation and electrical-heat tape?

Thanks for any help.

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