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Old 10-24-2015, 01:26 PM   #1
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Black water tank

Hi,

I dropped the belly wrap from the rear of my '65 Caravelle to determine the extent of the floor rot. I was surprised to not see the black water tank. Is it located above the floor in the raised section by the toilet. I will find out when I remove the one piece molded bath section but thought I would ask first.

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Old 10-24-2015, 02:31 PM   #2
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Many of the Airstreams of that era had above the floor black water tanks. My '68 Caravel and my '71 Caravel both had that system. My '74 Argosy 20' has an above the floor tank. Even my 2014 FC 20 uses the system.

If you see an Airstream with a low profile (about a foot high) toilet and it sits on a raised platform, most likely it will have an above the floor black water tank.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:01 AM   #3
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idroba, seems you are a rivet master and I am at a loss as to the black water, sewer tank that is missing from the 67 Sovereing I am restoring. Are there any 67 black water tanks available out there, or do I need to use a reproduction newer model tank?
I have the owners manuel, but no info in it on how the black water tank is set up or connected. I have asked about this on the pluming forum but I am getting no replys and I was told this was the sight to get the answers I need on restoration of an AS. Thanks if you can help and sorry I had to use this problem to address my own.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:20 AM   #4
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Old 10-25-2015, 08:02 AM   #5
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This is strange. I replied last night and the post disappeared. Anyway...

Welcome to the forums. Great to have another vintage Airstream from Mass.

We rebuilt a '65 Caravel and spent thousands of miles traveling across the country in it. They are a great little trailer. Here is our restoration thread. In case you haven't noticed, there is a sub-forum devoted to your year and model right here. It's a goldmine of information. If you plan to do a lot of work and have a lot of questions, it is the best place to put a new thread. This forum is getting so large that some posts seem to get lost -- your fellow Caravel owners will be the best resource you have -- posting in that subforum will keep you in touch with that community.

Your black tank is below the toilet, in the raised portion of the one-piece fiberglass bath. It is shaped to fit the curve, has an opening under the toilet and one below that should be attached to a black tank valve for dumping. I highly recommend replacing the entire tank and valving!

You are lucky that Vintage Trailer Supply now carries all the parts you'll need. See the Plumbing Page. These tanks weren't available when I did the work on ours. The first one I'd look at is this one. I'd recommend measuring it very well and have them spin on the correct parts. This worked very well for me on our latest rebuild for our fresh water tank.

Unfortunately, you will have to do a lot of deconstruction to get the bath out. Inspect the floor very well. If you have rot below the walls, where the wall is bolted to the frame, it must be addressed -- this is structural. If you don't repair the damage, towing will slowly destroy your trailer.
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Oh, yea. Here is a good tank thread. There is more recent experience with VTS tanks.
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idroba, seems you are a rivet master and I am at a loss as to the black water, sewer tank that is missing from the 67 Sovereing I am restoring. Are there any 67 black water tanks available out there, or do I need to use a reproduction newer model tank?
I have the owners manuel, but no info in it on how the black water tank is set up or connected. I have asked about this on the pluming forum but I am getting no replys and I was told this was the sight to get the answers I need on restoration of an AS. Thanks if you can help and sorry I had to use this problem to address my own.
A rivet master only means I post ... and post... and post, not that I know anything. But I do have 35+ years of Airstream ownership and observations. I have owned in the range of 15 of the beasties.

But to your question, with a larger, longer trailer such as you have, the black tank probably was under the floor, but I have no direct experience with your specific year and model, so really cannot say. In general, larger trailers had below floor tanks, smaller ones the above floor tanks.

Someone else suggested posting a question on a specific year/model of trailer directly in the specific forum which covers the unit you have. I would say that might be your best bet to find out where the black water tank was originally.

I wish I could help more, but that is all I know.
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