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05-30-2006, 06:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1956 22' Caravanner
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AC for 65 Globetrotter
I've made up my mind to add an AC unit to my 65 GT, but I am unsure where to locate it on the roof. I had seen on a back issue of Airstream Life a 65 with the AC installed over the front hatch, but I think that is because it was not originally wired for AC.
On my rig, when I open the battery access dor there is a plastic hose where I am assuming is for the A/C drip. Assuming the drain is straight up is that where I should install the unit?
I am considering the low profile carrier.
Any advice?
Thanks,
Doug
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05-30-2006, 06:41 PM
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Your coach is factory wired and plumbed for A/C. It SHOULD be in a 14" hole near the center of the coach, probably in the center vent location. You should be able to find a 110v plug or wires terminating at this location to hook the unit up to.
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05-30-2006, 07:55 PM
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1965 20' Globetrotter
Yakima
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It should go just in front of the rear vent. The clear hose in the battery area is a vent for the battery.
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06-06-2006, 12:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1956 22' Caravanner
Mendon
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Rib
I crawled up ontop of the GT and I think I can see where the hole goes. I am assuming that the hole goes behind the rib, which would put it between the rear vent and the first major rib.
Is this correct? Please see my picture of where I am assuming it will go.
Thanks,
Doug
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06-06-2006, 01:03 PM
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Patriotic
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Call Airstream tech support before cutting any huge gaping holes in your roof. They should be able to tell you exactly where to do it. In the newer models, (i.e. "70's" and up") there are tables in the service manuals that specify exactly where the factory wiring is in relation to the front main bow. they should have that same information for older models, even though it wasn't published in a service manual....
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06-11-2006, 05:11 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1956 22' Caravanner
Mendon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
Call Airstream tech support before cutting any huge gaping holes in your roof. They should be able to tell you exactly where to do it. In the newer models, (i.e. "70's" and up") there are tables in the service manuals that specify exactly where the factory wiring is in relation to the front main bow. they should have that same information for older models, even though it wasn't published in a service manual....
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Calling Airstream tech support was a good idea, since they set me straight on where I could locate the air conditioner and find a live wire. BUT and this is a BIG BUT, the rig was not wired for AC as previously posted. Whoever stated that the 65 was wired for AC should note that not all of them were wired......
To my surprise when I cut the hole in the coach and felt around there was no wire. I cut the rest and still, no wire. I got the AC installed and had to fish through the wall another wire. What joy it is to fish your airstream... NOT
All in all a busy day, but I did get the unit wired up and it's all cranked down. Doesn't look bad either, but I will be painting the shroud silver.
what a day....
Doug
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06-11-2006, 05:13 PM
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1965 20' Globetrotter
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prior picture
Oh, and the prior picture I posted was wrong. the AC was to be located front of the rib not aft.
Thanks Chuck for recommending tech support!!!
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06-11-2006, 05:53 PM
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How about a pic of your accomplishment. We all want to see.
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06-12-2006, 07:40 AM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
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Yeah! post pics!!
So how'd you manage to fish that wire? (Yikes! )
did your a/c panel have only 1 circuit in it? Mine has 2; 1 for the air conditioner, and one for "everything else"....
how'd you manage to hoist that thing up on top?
Details, Details!!!
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06-15-2006, 11:08 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1956 22' Caravanner
Mendon
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pictures
Here are some pictures of the AC ontop of my rig.
The fishing job was not a full down to the frame from the top. I cut my losses and snuck it into one of the top cabinets and then ran it along the back to the fuse box.
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06-15-2006, 11:12 AM
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2003 22' International CCD
Kiln
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Brand Name of AC unit.
I want to install an AC in my Caravel and like the AC look that you have. Can I please get the info on where you bought ia and for approx. how much.
Thank You
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06-15-2006, 01:56 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1965 20' Globetrotter
1956 22' Caravanner
Mendon
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Model & Price
The unit I bought was a Carrier Air V 13.5K BTUs and a heat strip. I bought mine from family RV in florida.
Check out this link
http://www.airforums.com/forum...dge%3B+florida
Now onto polishing!
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06-15-2006, 05:41 PM
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1965 20' Globetrotter
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuck
Yeah! post pics!!
So how'd you manage to fish that wire? (Yikes! )
did your a/c panel have only 1 circuit in it? Mine has 2; 1 for the air conditioner, and one for "everything else"....
how'd you manage to hoist that thing up on top?
Details, Details!!!
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The AC did not weigh as much as I expected, but I used several blankets and some neoprene floor pads from my daughters closet. I slid up the AC on the ladder and my wife balanced it for me. Once ontop of the rig, the neoprene pads helped to keep from scratching the finish.
Once I set the first bolt I had to adjust the unit from the outside while my wife fitted the other three. From there it was easy, but the instructions from Carrier suck.
I still have to purchase another junction box, to clean it up a little.
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06-15-2006, 06:02 PM
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1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
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AC for the Caravel
Hey Clancy Boy,
I put low profile Carrier on both Caravels. You will not beat the price from Palomino...beat the heck out of famlily rv in FLA. They really fit the profile on the small body Airstreams. I really like the rotating vents too. Drain tubes is the problem...plan for it on installation. I mounted mine forward and put a Fantasic Fan in the old AC hole. This had to be done if for nothing but asthetics.
Edit ....edit... I mounted the AC aft on the 66 and forward on the 69.
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06-15-2006, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by muddy_hollow
BUT and this is a BIG BUT, the rig was not wired for AC as previously posted. Whoever stated that the 65 was wired for AC should note that not all of them were wired......Doug
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Doug, I apologize for giving you bum information. Airstream has stated, and others here on the forum have affirmed, that beginning in 1964, all were prewired and preplumbed for A/C. Hopefully your coach is the exception proving the rule.
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06-15-2006, 06:28 PM
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No apologies required
Quote:
Originally Posted by overlander63
Doug, I apologize for giving you bum information. Airstream has stated, and others here on the forum have affirmed, that beginning in 1964, all were prewired and preplumbed for A/C. Hopefully your coach is the exception proving the rule.
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No Worries. Actually looking back I sorta expected the worse and only confirmed it when I popped the hole. Oh well, I love my rig but I'm not afraid to put a whole in it to make it work.
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06-15-2006, 08:44 PM
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No Drain Needed
Clancy Boy,
On most of the new Carriers, there is a design that routes the condensate water over to the blower where it is dispersed on to the condenser coils....keeping them cool and getting rid of the water at the same time. Very nice design, IMHO! Their low profile designs RULE!!!!
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06-15-2006, 08:57 PM
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Drain question?
Hey Lew.........When I put the low profile on the 66, no drain, it poured water all over the side. Instructions show optional drain fitting...which I was going to ASAP. Wazzup? I'd rather avoid the drain line problem. On the 69 I have the drain line in place, original, same drain instructions came with this cooler too. Any more info on your "over the coils" remedy would be appreciated. Much less trouble. Thanks.
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06-15-2006, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Ranch
Hey Lew.........When I put the low profile on the 66, no drain, it poured water all over the side. Instructions show optional drain fitting...which I was going to ASAP. Wazzup? I'd rather avoid the drain line problem. On the 69 I have the drain line in place, original, same drain instructions came with this cooler too. Any more info on your "over the coils" remedy would be appreciated. Much less trouble. Thanks.
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The last Carrier that I installed had a plastic pan that channeled the water back to the blower and then up to the condenser coils. It was not a low profile unit though. I assumed that this nifty design was universal to all of their models....maybe not. I'll check to see if I still have the install instructions. It was about a year ago, but I'll check tomorrow. Over and out!
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06-16-2006, 07:34 AM
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1973 23' Safari
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Doug, I assume there was no drain line in place, either? Do you suppose its possible that they were removed at some point? I know that your trailer got a fairly extensive refurbishment from its PO, but I didn't think it got a "shell-off" treatment....and I can't imagine that he would have removed those parts, if they existed. but perhaps a "p-po"?
who knows...
anyway...
so this a/c unit you chose: does it have provisions for an internal drain line? I understand that some do and some don't...mine doesn't. it dumps onto the roof. If I should ever need to replace it, though, I'd like to make sure I get a unit that can use the drain line (which I have confirmed is in existance, coiled up and tucked between the roof/ceiling skin.)
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