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Old 09-20-2011, 05:46 PM   #1
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F150 Ecoboost or F250 6.2L for 1968?

Hi Folks,
My 2000 F150 is at 125,000 and still runs great. I am sniffing around Ford and have read alot on the ecoboost. I tow a vintage 68' Globetrotter. I am leaning towards the F250 for "overkill" purposes. I want to be comfortable in having all the power needed to tow in mountains and acroos the 50 states at will. Can anyone throw their 2 cents in who have had the F250 experience or ecoboost experience?
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Old 09-20-2011, 06:33 PM   #2
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Ecoboost vs F250

Five months ago I was in your position. My wife and I drove the Ecoboost F150 and loved it. Plenty of torque and power in a smaller package than the F250. My wife much preferred the handling and size of the F150 Ecoboost to the big, bulky, F250.

Ultimately we decided to purchase the F250 diesel for safety reasons. We knew the Ecoboost would have the capability of towing the 27' Airstream we planned to buy but we were very concerned the crew cab would not have sufficient payload capacity. We also wanted to have the heavier duty brakes and chassis of the 3/4 ton truck as well as the extra power of the diesel. Finally we were someone concerned about the lack of track record for the Ecoboost engine long term under heavy towing situations. However, you could also argue we were taking a risk with an unproven new diesel engine in its first year of production.

In hindsight, if I knew everything I know now and were buying a 23' or 25' Airstream I'd probably go with the Ecoboost. With the 27'FB I own, I feel safe and have plenty of power with the F250 diesel in towing situations. However, I wish I had a smaller, more agile vehicle for everyday, non-towing, driving situations.
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Old 09-20-2011, 07:11 PM   #3
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Randy,

Assuming you are talking about towing your 20 footer, I'd think the Ecoboost would do a great job.
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I want to be comfortable in having all the power needed to tow in mountains and acroos the 50 states at will.
Either one will do the job with ease with a 20 footer. How much "overkill" do you want when you're not towing is the question.
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I don't work for Ford...but I was heavily involved in launching both the F150 Ecoboost and the F250 6.2. The long and short of it is that the Ecoboost will handle the load you're considering very nicely. HOWEVER, the Ecoboost will NOT stand up to the WAY the F250 diesel will handle this kind of load (and heavier). With an appropriate anti-sway hitch (Hensley or ProPride are the ONLY way to go) you won't even know the 27 in behind the F250. Moreover, the F250 will outlast the F150 just in simple terms of strength and endurance over a longer period of time. The new diesel had over 1,000,000 miles of testing in the real world of commercial use BEFORE it was delivered to the first general consumer customer. Not the same with Ecoboost. Don't get me wrong...the Ecoboost is a fantastic drivetrain. But, in the end, the new Diesel 6.2 is definitely King of The Road. Hope this helps.
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Randy, I know you asked about trucks. But I wanted to add this: my Argosy is similar in size and weight to your Globetrotter. The Ford Flex Ecoboost is the best tow vehicle I've used (and I've used several) - very stable, very comfortable, and very quick. It yanked my trailer uphill, passing at will. The Globie is within its specs with the Flex's tow package.

Back to the original question - Keep in mind that if you go with the F-150 Ecoboost, it only has a 26 gallon tank; you'd get a bigger tank in the F-250. Still, I'd go with the F-150 (if not the Flex) - I've also towed with the truck and was impressed. Very quiet, doesn't rev high.
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Old 09-20-2011, 08:12 PM   #7
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To me towing a 20' vintage Airstream seems perfect for a half ton truck such as F150. In fact it should be 'overkill.' I previously towed my 25 with '99 F250 and while the 7.3 diesel engine was great I didn't find to to be the most crisp handling of vehicles. Of the four pickups I've owned it was the most ponderous, had vaguest steering, and had the worst ride. The trucks: 1992 Chevy 1500, 1997 Ford F150, 1999 Ford F250 and 2011 Toyota Tundra.

I've driven F250 up to 2005 and I didn't think any were what I consider to be great handling or riding vehicles. They're great beasts of burden for heavy loads.

Ecoboost or not, personally I decided to wait to see how it pans out. Would a Ford F150 5.0 work for your 20 footer? My Tundra 5.7 easily pulls my 25' in the areas I've traveled so far.
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We tow 28' with 2011 F250 6.7. Power is great but the really great benefit of the 250 is the quiet, pleasant ride and handling when towing. We hardly know the trailer is back there especially in mountains. Doesn't slow down uphill or overspeed downhill at all. Just returned to south La today from 2 months (10,372 miles) in Rockies; Glacier, Tetons, Yellowstone, Rocky Mountain, lots of BLM & Natl Forest stays etc. Avg towing mpg 15.2 this trip. High passes, long steep winding downhills are a breeze in Tow/Haul, manual shift control with the 6-speed auto and oversized brakes. Truck is a Job 1 version purchased May 2010, used exclusively for towing and absolutely no issues to date (37k miles). Traded in a '05 6.0 that had less, but still really great power, but had a much more harsh ride, more engine and road noise, and averaged about 12 mpg towing. We usually tow 40k-60k miles a year at gross of 17k+ lbs.
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I really like this combination, and can only speak for it as I haven't used a 250 towing this trailer. We went from Montana to Minnesota, and a couple of trips up into the Mountains around Yellowstone (We live about 80 miles due North of Old Faithful, and don't go into the park during Summer craziness). It has been a great tow vehicle and also a great farm/personal vehicle.
I know that others that haven't bought one have all sorts of opinions, some good and some bad, but as an owner since March, and a person that has driven 4 wheel drive pickups since the 1960's, this truck is exceptional.
I really like towing the 19' and feel it is almost overkill with this truck, and very comfortable driving.
I have the Super crew, 4x4, tow max.
Not sorry at all I bought this rig, and would do it again if I were in your situation.

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BTW, to me there is very little comparison between the older 7.3 or 6.0 F250s with the new 6.7 250/350s handling, ride, noise, power, road feel and control etc. The new trucks are all really new, quite different and comfortable machines from previous trucks. Suspect the new 150s and Ecoboost may be equally as improved in comparison to previous 150 models as well. My thoughts simple; don't rely on others opinions, try them all for yourself; buy what you like and like what you buy; Happy towing.
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Those pulling with Mercedes, BMW, VW, Ford Flex probably experience the best ride/handling possible if they're within weight ratings.

Somehow the only sources panning the handling and ride of 3/4 ton plus pickups are those such as the NY Times and Consumer reports. The enthusiast publications are much more breathless in their analysis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/14/au...0trucks&st=cse

But come on, a vehicle with both a solid front and rear axle is not going to have state of the art ride and handling.

My point: if you're a fortunate one who doesn't require the capacity of a huge pickup, enjoy your other options.
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Hi, seems that the original poster was asking about the Eco-boost and the 6.2 L engines. Both of these are gas engines. The 6.7 L engine is the Diesel. I myself am leaning towards a 6.2 L gas engine whether it be in an F-150 or a F-250.
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Here is a link for the alleged higher capacities for the 2012 F150's:
2012 Ford F-150 Expected to Feature Improved Payload Capacity - PickupTrucks.com News

Also the 2012 EcoBoost is supposed to get a 35 gallon fuel tank.

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I don't work for Ford...but I was heavily involved in launching both the F150 Ecoboost and the F250 6.2. The long and short of it is that the Ecoboost will handle the load you're considering very nicely. HOWEVER, the Ecoboost will NOT stand up to the WAY the F250 diesel will handle this kind of load (and heavier). With an appropriate anti-sway hitch (Hensley or ProPride are the ONLY way to go) you won't even know the 27 in behind the F250. Moreover, the F250 will outlast the F150 just in simple terms of strength and endurance over a longer period of time. The new diesel had over 1,000,000 miles of testing in the real world of commercial use BEFORE it was delivered to the first general consumer customer. Not the same with Ecoboost. Don't get me wrong...the Ecoboost is a fantastic drivetrain. But, in the end, the new Diesel 6.2 is definitely King of The Road. Hope this helps.
A 6.2 L must be a skunk works project...will this be coming after the 6.7 L diesel?
When will this be launched?
Tell us more...
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