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Old 12-24-2014, 05:00 PM   #99
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Don't destroy them, those are in good shape believe it or not. Drill out the rivets and remove them
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Old 12-24-2014, 05:08 PM   #100
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Just drill out the rivets at the seem. After you get them off Cleo the skin back to the "C" channel
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Old 12-24-2014, 06:13 PM   #101
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Old 12-24-2014, 09:34 PM   #102
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My frame is not great. But only in the front. I think. I hope. Merry Christmas Eve!Click image for larger version

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Old 12-25-2014, 01:47 PM   #103
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Another old rusty Airstream frame comes to light. Our Air Forums are full of pictures like yours. You get to spend hours behind a wire brush grinding all that oxidation off. Lucky you! Wear a full face shield as you don't want anything piercing your eyes.

As you clean up your frame, you can note areas where there are rusted through holes or cracks around welds. Then you will know how much repair you need to do.

Your making progress. Maybe Santa brought a good angle grinder for you to do the wire brushing!

Merry Christmas!

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Old 12-25-2014, 03:17 PM   #104
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Hi Glamper Girl:
You are at a stage very close to where I am with a 65' Overlander.
As you may see from one of the photo's I've a bent frame on road
side. THAT was a shocker. I'm doing mine outside under a cover
and the easiest solution was to lift one half at a time (due to wind).
See other pic.
Hang in there you are at the stage where I almost saws all'd the
whole shebange a hauled to the dump....but I just could'ent bring
myself to do it.
PS: I'm going to plastic "banana wraps" at the lower corners mostly for esthetics. The new sub floor is pre-made and waiting in my shop.
My new axels just showed up (I used the local Dexter Axel place...it was fine 1,051 US total for 2 ea including delivery).
Just took delivery of 60 feet!! of Alclad siding...I have to do the entire lower shell due to the numerous dents and appliance/storage cut-outs in various places and I want an absolute minimum of "shell penetrations". Also it means I only have to worry about polishing 1/3rd (as I'm painting the roof like the modern trailers....so the cost of the alum. will off set the cost of polishing (my logic).
All the new custom bent metal to repair the frame should be in tomorrow.
It's like every week is my birthday (mine's coming up early Jan.) with boxes showing up right left and center.
All the best on your project!!
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Old 12-25-2014, 05:06 PM   #105
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Del Gurney: What do you suppose cause the 5" frame channel to bend? Maybe a PO overloaded the rear of the trailer? Maybe the subfloor was completely rotted out in the rear thus applying additional loads to the frame. I think of the mid sixties Airstreams having stronger 5" C channel frame rails. I read about rear end separation in the mid seventies longer Airstreams due to the infamous rear body mounting design. But not so much in the mid sixties trailers.

What do you figure the cause of the frame bend was?

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Old 12-25-2014, 05:41 PM   #106
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A suggestion for you...

I have found that the interior skins are cheaper to replace than strip. My local supplier sells 3003 alloy .032 for $45 a 4 x 10 sheet. I spend more than that on stripper and still end up with ratty old skins.
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Old 12-25-2014, 10:32 PM   #107
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All, thank you for supporting me!

I have a few grinders to choose from. Will debate if I grind or not myself.

Del Rey, you are so nice! I don't feel alone. 40ft of 2024 on the way from Kansas City. Arrives on Friday 140lbs in two boxes. I felt like it wasn't going to be my only order.

Interior. Yesssss it feels like you may be right. More new. More new. Then I take the same decision to the window framing.

So far I am very happy with the great worker I have hired. He has mainly been under the belly. I couldn't do it.

Next Tuesday I have dinner with very old friends. The husband is a metal worker. Conversation is about cutting all aluminum and helping me replace half the panels of the darn thing.

Perfect aluminum tent. Step and repeat.

Back at it in a few days.

Happy holidays all!
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Old 12-26-2014, 09:15 AM   #108
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dbj216: If you look at the alum. end cap in photo you'll see that the lowest road side piece is a later addition (no asphalt on it). The WHOLE exterior road side was once replaced....end cap to end cap.
Who knows what indignities these 50 yr. old coaches endured to finally end up in the
hands of "can do" AS dreamers (I see many oldies like these on Craigslist where people just gave up). I'm just guessing but I think mine got dropped in a ditch and maybe partially rolled. You can see a shoddy "backing plate" on the bent frame so it's all gotta go and I've an engineer friend and a professional mobile welder helping with this.
HiHoagRV: Love your insulation .... just what I'm going to do. But I'm going epoxy impregnated ext. grade ply for interior for insulation purposes. This will require a 1 3/4 x 3/8" Hemlock battens 3M5200'd to the C-channel for fasteners with a further layer of the same insulation glued to the back. After that will be commercial grade wall paper of some sort.
Glamper Girl: Way to go! I need your thread to "keep the faith" on this up hill project but promise no further "high jacking"....it's your party ... enjoy it, I will PM you with any revelations I may have.
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Old 12-26-2014, 12:32 PM   #109
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Thanks Del Gurney, I should have considered accident damage as a likely cause of the bent frame rail. Both you and I have read about Airstreamers building an entirely new frame using the old one as a pattern.

Yes, these old Airstreams have lots of battle scars and lots of needs to get travel ready again. I too promise not to change the thread subject and cheer on thumbelina and her Globetrotter project. And may help a bit with some "free advice".

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Old 12-26-2014, 03:42 PM   #110
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'65 GT 20' my winter project

I read a thread that I attached below. They had to build a whole new frame. It was disheartening last night to read. I can't think too far ahead or I get a lot of anxiety. I am taking another day off from the shop. Good news is I have persuaded my son to help me before he goes back to the UW winter quarter. Gantry build tomorrow.

This is a good thread I learned a lot from. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/62-gt-shell-off-renovation-122890.html
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Old 12-27-2014, 12:51 AM   #111
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Gantry building anxiety keeping me awake. Why did I have to buy pressure treated? Is the only way to fasten is with 10 inch threaded bolts? This has become ridiculously expensive for one use.

My helper-I am concerned he is out of his element. Hello two lost people in the woods doesn't work. I have the gantry PDF downloaded. Frustrated I'm making an expensive mistake of the first cuts tomorrow to build it. The helper was trying to persuade me to use the shop ceiling beams. Not safe to get up there first of all and I'm against it. Doesn't look right to me.




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I think all of us who've jumped into a vintage Airstream restoration are familiar with the anxiety and general feeling of being overwhelmed that comes with viewing their project as a whole. Just take it one task, one rivet at a time and you'll get there. No one here was born an expert (though I'm sure some might think they were ). Half the fun is learning the new skills that come with the process, and when all's said and done you'll be amazed at how far you've come. Be confident in your ability to learn and you'll be fine. Good luck tomorrow, it's going to be an exciting day!
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