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Old 02-26-2015, 10:46 AM   #295
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Belly pan. Argued about this one single sheet cut. He seems to think he can bend it over the riggers without the English wheel using vise grips. I have so much doubt today.

Argued about there needs to be at least four inches from c-channel up of the belly pan sides.

He argued about riveting the channel on before dropping shell and there would be too many holes.

Keep reading posts and showing him all my data I printed.


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Old 02-26-2015, 12:46 PM   #296
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Reading your post about the use of an English wheel for the belly pans edges rolling up the sides. The use of the English wheel is to stretch forming like a bowl or a fenders and your bannana wraps but not on the sides of you pan , he may be right about just wrapping the material around the edge. The light alum can be hand shaped around a form like a pc of PVC pipe to aid in getting a rolled shape. Just a smooth hand shaping a little at a time.
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Old 02-26-2015, 12:49 PM   #297
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No need for an English wheel on the belly pan no need to come higher than the c channel top and rivet before shell if just tack riveting or after with the shell
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Old 02-26-2015, 12:49 PM   #298
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:02 PM   #299
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Be carful not to try to form the pan over the curved outriggers this may put small cresses in the rolled edge bummer.
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Old 02-26-2015, 01:27 PM   #300
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Geez how much do I love all of you. Spoke to Indy. Patrick is more informed. I may be down from the ceiling
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Old 02-26-2015, 04:17 PM   #301
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More progress. Indy spoke to Patrick the hired Navy man. I'm still concerned about the wrap on the edges. Learned the term the point of beyond yield from Indy.

Feeling better ...for now.

My banana wraps are at Dreamers Hot Rods in Everett, WA. The owner of my shop is spending money there on a 1969 Camaro NEW BUILD that means new everything. Yes the body is from the mold. He talked them into working on my banana wraps. So that is super cool news. And he is still happy with how I run the shop.

Honestly, I could hang out in a hot rod shop or Airstream shop all day long. As frustrating as it is. It's the creation.


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Old 02-27-2015, 08:29 AM   #302
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Glad you are making progress! Fabricators/hotrodders/wheelers are very helpful - out of the box thinkers, haters-gonna-hate types, which is really good at times because there is no "the" way, but many ways. That being said, I'm glad you are also getting help from trailer guys because there really is nothing like an Airstream. But, like most things in life, you have to make your own mistakes to actually learn.

I'll pm you pictures of my corners - Vinstream made them for me after we sat there and pondered the mysteries of how I could fail so many times, and after looking at my many attempts at perfecting the corner. I think AS did a lot of things right, but not the corners.

For me, though....on this first trailer..I finally had to go with Mark Zuckerberg's, "Done is better than Perfect."

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Old 02-27-2015, 09:37 AM   #303
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Hallelujah. Yes. Done is better than perfect
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Old 02-27-2015, 01:07 PM   #304
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Theme of the day.
Done is sometimes more important than perfect.

OK So I have to pause this whole project and regroup. Good time to do it.

Lessons learned-

1- People hired from Craigslist don't have full time jobs for a reason
2- Do not think you can make new banana wraps unless you are an EXPERT
3- Fire your hired help faster
4- Learn to do it yourself-well that may be fine and good- But I am learning Hybrid Cloud Networks right now.

Banana wrap update- $800 for the repairs to date and I call them done. They need a good polish.

That aside- The gap between the end of the banana wraps and the edge of the last sheet is 14". Its awkward but not a bend but no rigger to attach to. I have the old template.

Onward and upward. This is the last day of work for the week. Back next weekend after I have frozen my tail off in DC and NY. Ready for the break and my new job!

Thank you so much for all the support, pictures and calls. My courage and determination is bolstered by this forum. Bless you all.

Glad I have documented so much because I think so many people want to share the lessons from decisions, mistakes, methods and milestones.

Most of the albums of each step is on my Google Plus photo site Glamper Girl. Click around.

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Old 03-01-2015, 09:04 AM   #305
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Some metal experience helps.

Hang in there, we got your back, and you got my #.
Be safe.
Here is a small project I was involved with you may recognize it.
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Banana wraps

Well, I'll be honest, those banana wraps do look pretty darn sweet!
A little expensive, but look great.

I was going to show you my progress on my 'wrap', as I've only done one.
But your done with yours, so no need. If you want I have posted pictures on my thread.
I think the belly looks fine, and actually more than fine. As long as it doesn't hang down while you are moving the trailer, then it can all be finished or fixed later.

Get that shell on, and push forward. I too got hung up on little things, as I was like you where I was managing many projects at once. Ended up confusing myself, getting frustrated, then total burnt, and finally walked away. 2 years later I picked it back up, and have a much more reasonable approach.

Remember, this is a 2 wheel coach that you sleep in, or drink in, or whatever. No one is going to call you out on doing things wrong when your rig is AWESOME!
The truth of the matter is, nothing is really WRONG, it's just a different perspective and approach. A million ways to skin a cat.

Now, go earn some money, and then get back on that horse.



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Old 03-01-2015, 03:05 PM   #307
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Hang in there, we got your back, and you got my #.

Be safe.

Here is a small project I was involved with you may recognize it.

Wow that is amazing. Come on up Derald! Those curves on the EMP are pure Airstream!!
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Hi,
I haven't read the whole thread, but you seem to be having some belly pan difficulties. The rear corners are one single flat sheet. Not easy, but you have the frame inverted, so it should be very easy.

It will look something like this-
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...eat=directlink

You can look through the pics to see other examples.

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