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Old 02-24-2015, 10:08 AM   #281
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Just read that the screws in the corner are temps. Sorry I missed that.
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Old 02-24-2015, 03:27 PM   #282
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I bought an English wheel again after returning it unopened two weeks ago. It was $264 with tax. This guy says he knows how to use it and will fix the corner and was happier using it.
So tomorrow we go.

Then I woke up last night and realized oh **** we left the c-channel in place where the door goes.

That cascaded to trying to remember if I bought the right size rivets.

Now I am digging back into all my piles of notes to find the rivet size for the shell on step. Doubting my memory of how I removed it even though I have video and pictures.

Panic turns into self doubt over and over. Took the day off to chill out.

Kathy thank you for the note. I know I'm not alone.

Shell on Friday is the plan. Dang it.

My new job starting next Monday has me gone every week for four weeks in a row. NY, DC, LA, SF, London Zurich. Frenetic pace.

Back to weekends only work.

The angel shop owner is really happy with the way I keep the shop so he is giving me more time.

Much to be relieved about that now.

New crew in helping me.

Thanks all! You're the best coaches!!
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Old 02-24-2015, 03:29 PM   #283
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Boy, it's a shame you don't get to travel anyplace cool with your new job... Bummer.

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Old 02-24-2015, 05:15 PM   #284
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Have to fly the miles to burn the $100 bills! Datacenter tours. Very exciting.
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Old 02-24-2015, 06:51 PM   #285
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I think the exterior rivets are 5/32 diameter. I assume you will use solid rivets, and pneumatic riveter, and the infamous bucking bar. Rattle, rattle, buzz, it's noisy. I was watching the folks at Jackson center do it. It is interesting how two people can place and rivet with little coordination with each other. You gotta be mindful of the grip range of the rivet. I'll bet your metal worker knows exactly what to do.

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Old 02-24-2015, 10:32 PM   #286
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Data center tours exciting? So I'm not the only one that's an übergeek around here...

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Old 02-25-2015, 09:30 AM   #287
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End Caps-Rivet question again- what size for attaching the end caps?
I swear I bought the right ones. Now that I have bags and bags of rivets0 now I forget and can't find what I wrote down. Some of the rivets in the kit I bought from VTS have such little depth-

Belly pan- Hopeful today- three more work days with the one new retired Navy man I hired to finish the belly pan. I just don't need him taking three hours to create a 6 inch by 4 inch patch at the wheel wells where the previous guy cut the sheet wrong....

I like doing all of this project the right way but I have to draw the line in some places.
He sanded the edges and that is correct. I get that. But it is all just getting to be so crazy for time. I need that belly pan on and I need it done by tomorrow.

Have to get this shell dropped Friday.



Sanding closes the edge and prevents corrosion- ok- So why am I spending all this money on Sikaflex. Am I being lazy when I say just rivet that patch and skip all this fancy work you are doing?

8 hour day today- I am hopeful.
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Old 02-25-2015, 10:50 AM   #288
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It does take time to do things well, especially if doing it for the first time. Even for a worker with skills.
In reading here, a total restore seems to take a long time. You might want to consider if your time line is realistic. I'm not sure what a shop would estimate to do a total redo, but your situation is going to take longer.

Hopefully others with more experience will chime in with their stories of duration of these projects.

Pretty sure it's usually more than a winter project.

Great news you got an extension in the shop.

This week has been a challenging one for me in my endeavors too.
Hope next week things will flow.

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Old 02-25-2015, 12:15 PM   #289
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HI Richard,

I am so feeling the pressure of this new job starting and the shop owner has let me use this amazing space for free. Sooooo I want to get it on the shell this weekend.
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Your problem is "retired Navy guy"... Once they get that old, their fingers are permanently bent in a Chief's Hook, designed by God Himself for the holding of the sacred coffee cup. Take the old retired guy and put him in charge of a young guy. You won't get any more work out of Chief, but you will get twice the amount of work out of the young guy.

This same rule applies to retired Air Force Master Sergeants, and anybody from The Corps called "Gunny". Matter of fact, if you'll find "Gunny", you can get three times the work out of the young guy. Proven fact...

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"End Caps-Rivet question again- what size for attaching the end caps?
I swear I bought the right ones. Now that I have bags and bags of rivets0 now I forget and can't find what I wrote down. Some of the rivets in the kit I bought from VTS have such little depth-"


I believe all exterior rivets are 5/32 solid and bucked tight. Ol Don A. gave me two solid rivets while on the Jackson Center plant tour. Neither were very long. I lost the short one, but the long one is 3/8" long. I think the short one was 3/16 long.

Remember your exterior skin is only .032 thick. So if you are attaching it to a C channel that might be 1/8 thick, or .125 thick. So you have .157 total of material thickness. Your solid rivet grip range can be up to .250, or 1/4 inch. I don't know how thick a C channel is?

Look in your stock of solid rivets and find the ones that are 5/32 head diameter and grip range of .250 and start hammering away. Mush those babies down tight. They will be there forever.

Congratulations on your new position. You're going to be a real road warrior! And then a weekend Airstream warrior. It will take a while to get a new routine going.

Good luck with the body re-attachment. Remember all you read about the door threshold and how it attaches to the floor. Some folks have had difficulty in this area when fitting the body on the new floor.

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Your problem is "retired Navy guy"... Once they get that old, their fingers are permanently bent in a Chief's Hook, designed by God Himself for the holding of the sacred coffee cup. Take the old retired guy and put him in charge of a young guy. You won't get any more work out of Chief, but you will get twice the amount of work out of the young guy.

This same rule applies to retired Air Force Master Sergeants, and anybody from The Corps called "Gunny". Matter of fact, if you'll find "Gunny", you can get three times the work out of the young guy. Proven fact...

-Red, and that's the way they keep the boats floating...

Oh so true...Gunny taught me to shoot properly USMC style when I was a kid in Scouting, and MSgt Williams was my boss for years. And of course "Chief" was the first name of a lot of fellows that mentored me, and chewed me out as needed during my time in the Navy. I learned a lot from those guys...

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