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Old 02-19-2015, 08:36 PM   #253
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I love Kip for making me a better hobbyist. So question tonight is I about wheel wells. There were two layers.
New ones are back. Higher gauge and lovely for $85 each.

Why do I need that second plastic layer?

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Old 02-19-2015, 08:38 PM   #254
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:42 PM   #255
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The plastic layer covered the insulation that was installed over the metal well wells
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:54 PM   #256
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The added layer of plastic /fiberglass adds a small level of sound and thermo insulation, they come up into the living space, under cabinets sure but think, how if only the metal is there = 0 insulation and how much is in floor just my opinion.
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:06 PM   #257
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If you can afford to add your own better insulation to the inside I would add something. In my case I could not gain much hight under the bed, so I added 1/4" pink siding insulation.
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Old 02-19-2015, 09:34 PM   #258
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I totally forgot about the insulation. I can figure this out!


Ok good!

My other hero is PBearSailor. Steve did a lot of fiberglass and much better than me.

I have double sided MDO down except on one piece that you will see in gray. It's plywood.

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Covered the shower area, water tank and entry with the fabric. Then used the four inch tape on seams.

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Old 02-19-2015, 10:15 PM   #259
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I guess I look at the bellypan from a different perspective, it's easy to install a 3/16 big head rivet, it's easy to drill it out and just as easy to put another one in its place.

Minimal chance of it unthreading and I'm not planning on working inside the bellypan any time soon.

I vote for rivets.

The floor is AWESUM!
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True, 3/16" rivets are easy to install and remove.

I agree, floors awesome!

Oh yeah, and I think I used a 12# shotput for my banana wraps, a fairly bigger one anyways.

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Old 02-20-2015, 06:30 AM   #261
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Dena, you are doing an AWESOME job, my heroine! Grrls rock.
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Old 02-20-2015, 07:49 AM   #262
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^^. I'll second that, great progress. The floor coating looks good!
The idea of having smaller access panels in strategic areas of the pan sure makes good sense.

Don't know about the extra flat bar over the seams. Are the edges of your old panels torn up badly? Are you thinking of bedding them to provide extra sealing at the seams? Thinking of using them just at the edges of the access panels?
I'm just not sure what is meant to be gained with them?

Are the overlaps of the panels oriented so the seams open towards the back of the trailer?
Pardon all the questions, motorhomes don't have underfloor pans, So I am trying to getting up to speed on this part of the trailer. Is the goal to make the the pan skin water tight? Are there drains?

You have a good pace going, and your logistic planner seems on top of getting parts and material and having them on hand :-)

Hope you have time before your coming out party ( out of the shop that is)to go over the roof to assure no leaks once back out in the weather.

Carry on, you and your team are going to make it and some.

Oh, Any chance of having someone doing sanding and finish work on the cabinetry while it is sitting out? Will it be back inside the trailer once you are out of the shop?

So many considerations, as if you don't all ready have enough to think about.
Don't let me distract you.

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Old 02-20-2015, 11:04 AM   #263
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Old panels are toast.
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Old 02-21-2015, 02:47 PM   #264
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'65 GT 20' my winter project

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Attached the floor and forgot about under mount. Size wise it's not an issue. Stupid of me

With that said mounted the wheel wells above. Ugh. I'm feeling sick about it.
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Old 02-22-2015, 11:52 AM   #265
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Hey Dena, mistakes happen.
I often feel well equipped to do a project once it's finished, that's the challenge of doing things for the first time.
Is the problem that the wheel well should be mounted from the bottom side?
If so, why not pull them off and remount them correctly.
5200 is slow to dry especially if not in contact with air. They may still come off
W O. Too much difficulties (some mess for sure) Maybe some heat on the flange could help separate them from the floor.

Or you can get into the wheel well and glass the exposed ply edge lapping onto the metal of the wheel well.

They make mistakes at the factory too.

Just solve the problem and move forward.
You have good momentum going, don't let this bog you down.

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Old 02-22-2015, 07:06 PM   #266
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The belly pan work has stolen my soul. None of the workers from the last stage will be able to get to this next level. I am looking for all new workers to help me finish. Have found a few good prospects.

I am so mad about the wheel wells. It's my fault I just missed the step. I can't tear all that work up again and mount them below.

Dejected Dena today
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