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Old 08-22-2006, 03:29 PM   #1
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Would you sell your airstream to anyone

The folowing dilemma.
I have my airstream for sale.
There is a guy willing to buy but he wants to tow the airstream ( 1973 27 ft overlander) with his range rover with a 3.9 liter V8
He don't want to use a WD hitch or any other sway controll.
I adviced him to sel the rover and buy a decent USA build car/van/pickup.
He say's no need for that the rover is good for 3500 KG towing.
Should I sell to this guy even when I know a acident is waiting to happen.
Or tell him to forget it .
He wants to pay a good price for the airstream, I would be close to a idiot not to take his money.
But when there is a acident do I than also take his live.

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Old 08-22-2006, 03:50 PM   #2
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Remco--this sounds more like a control issue than an Airstream sale--Pieman

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Old 08-22-2006, 03:53 PM   #3
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Remco, you've done your part to educate him. Some folks refuse to be educated. Take his money, and don't feel bad about it.

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Old 08-22-2006, 03:56 PM   #4
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I had a similar situation when I sold my '71 Safari.

The person who bought it had never towed before and did not even have a receiver on their Grand Jeep Cherokee.

I just told them the weight info they needed and asked them to check with their dealer about whether or not it could be towed safely with their vehicle. I strongly suggested them to hire a pro to tow it the first time since they were not setup.

They chose not to use a pro and ended up at my place still w/o a receiver on their Jeep. So I gave them three numbers of local shops that handle that type of work and let them work out the details.

Once they did, I towed the trailer to the shop and left the buyer and trailer at the shop to work it all out.

I put the responsibility back on the buyer in each situation that orrcured. I offered my advice, but went with their decisions.
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:04 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
Remco--this sounds more like a control issue than an Airstream sale--Pieman
Mike, being aware of the ripple effect you have on the world is not a control issue, it's a matter of exercising the human trait of conscience.
Of course I'm an elitist. Look around you.
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Old 08-22-2006, 04:32 PM   #6
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Next thing he'll say he doesn't need a brake controller because "the rover is good for 3500 KG towing." I don't see that size engine on the Great Britain Rover website. But payload (allowance for passengers, cargo & tongue weight) of the Range Rover is not huge.

Without a WD hitch he will be mighty close to overloading his back axle. I suspect this is a case of him not reading his owners manual.

The responsibility rests with him. If he won't listen to you on some basics I don't know how you dare open your mouth on others to assist him when he picks it up. Hopefully he'll need or use an intermediary like Safari Tim's experience.

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Old 08-22-2006, 05:35 PM   #7
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There is nothing wrong with selling your Airstream to a stupid person.
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:40 PM   #8
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Remco, Have him sign a paper releasing you of all responsibility. Then see what happens. If he still does not listen. At least he has no grounds to sue you.
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:48 PM   #9
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If you really want to get yourself off the guilty feeling hook.....refer the potential buyer to this Forem...tell him to put out a request for advice on the subject. If that person does not respond to what happens to him next....your of the hook.
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Old 08-22-2006, 05:59 PM   #10
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if it's a newer range rover, he's got more money than sense! ha! my land rover defender won't tow ITSELF up a hill, and it's got the 3.9 with a 5 speed. i've towed a few motorcycles to daytona with it, and had to get her into 3rd on the highway to make it up GENTLE hills.

a fool and his money are easily parted... so take your part! :-D he probably won't get going fast enough to hurt himself anyway!


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Old 08-22-2006, 06:22 PM   #11
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Sell it even if he is a fool. After a white knuckle experience or two, he'll see the wisdom in your suggestions, and (hopefully) will get the right setup. --dave
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Old 08-22-2006, 06:54 PM   #12
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Take the money, you did your duty by warning him. Some people never learn.
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Old 08-22-2006, 07:03 PM   #13
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Well, this is a stinky little problem, but such abounds in life.

No, I wouldn't sell my trailer to a person who I absolutely thought wouldn't make it out of town without a potentially fatal accident or even my "previously-loved" trailer on its side.

And "fool" might be a bit harsh. How about "inexperienced" or "uneducated" in this regard? Maybe he buys into the pre-SUV Land Rover myth of it being the go-anywhere, do-anything tamer of wild continents.

Who knows?

I think Safari Tim had a great suggestion. If the guy is persistent and not to be dissuaded, YOU should take the trailer to the Land Rover dealer with him taking the Rover. Ask somebody there a simple question. Point to the Rover and say "Can THIS be made to SAFELY tow" then point to the trailer "THAT."

You will quickly find out if your guy thinks he knows more than the dealer.

If this spoils the deal, console yourself that you've saved another one.

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Old 08-22-2006, 07:15 PM   #14
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After all the work I've put into my trailer, I certainly wouldn't sell it to anyone I thought was going to wreck it! But I guess it depends on how much you like the trailer and how badly you need the money. You're not his keeper, you tried to enlighten him, if he doesn't take your advice now, he probably will after a couple white-knuckle trips...


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