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Old 08-22-2006, 08:28 PM   #15
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Yes I’d sell my Airstream to any adult. If I sense that the buyer is inexperienced, I’ll provide technical details and necessary safety and legal requirements and talk-up my lessons learned.
But the issue is: Who am I to pass judgment? I can only express my reservations and opinions. We all have a free will, this is a free country and the old saying is: “Let the buyer beware.”
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Old 08-22-2006, 09:14 PM   #16
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After all the work, sweat and love I have put into my Argosy, I could never let him go with someone who was that careless with his money or his life. A restored AS/Argosy should go to someone who wants to take good care of it. If he hasn't the sense to know about his vehicle and won't listen to the man who's selling him the trailer, then he doesn't need my trailer. Once he rolls the AS it will be lost and that would be a waste of a grand trailer. You're right about him not actually getting up enough speed to hurt too many people, but he could certainly do some damage to that Airstream.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:10 PM   #17
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Couple of questions:
1. Is the buyer a fellow countryman?
2. Is his tow vehicle set up with an electric brake controller?

There aren't many hills in The Netherlands, so if he isn't planning out of country trips, his vehicle probably is big enough. Aren't trailers limited to 80 kmph (50 mph)? If I remember correctly, European trailers are equipped with surge brakes, so the brake controller might be a worry.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:11 PM   #18
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I was hoping to find someone like that when I sold my Safari. I had it listed on the forums for weeks and not even a nibble.

So off to eBay it went. There you have no control over who wins the final bid.

If you are willing to wait for the right buyer in your mind, it may take a while and you will probably have to take less.


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After all the work, sweat and love I have put into my Argosy, I could never let him go with someone who was that careless with his money or his life. A restored AS/Argosy should go to someone who wants to take good care of it. If he hasn't the sense to know about his vehicle and won't listen to the man who's selling him the trailer, then he doesn't need my trailer. Once he rolls the AS it will be lost and that would be a waste of a grand trailer. You're right about him not actually getting up enough speed to hurt too many people, but he could certainly do some damage to that Airstream.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:32 PM   #19
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Hey Remco,
All the folks who posted here gave great opinions. I respect them and their choices. I think you need to go with your feelings about the deal. Sounds like you have a hard time with it. Can you sleep at night with this? If not, do what you believe is right, because it is your own sense of what is correct that you must live with. Best wishes.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:42 PM   #20
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Tough moral dilema. While I am a firm beliver in letting people choose their own destinies I sense you would feel bad if he hurt himself or someone else. If thats the case don't sell the trailer to him. Money comes and goes but a clear conscience and a good nights sleep are priceless. Let me know what you decide.
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Old 08-22-2006, 10:42 PM   #21
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I was hoping to find someone like that when I sold my Safari. I had it listed on the forums for weeks and not even a nibble.

So off to eBay it went. There you have no control over who wins the final bid.

If you are willing to wait for the right buyer in your mind, it may take a while and you will probably have to take less.
Tim-

Tried the same thing. I listed my Globetrotter here to give the forum crowd a shot at it first. After a week, I was surprised to get only a few gentle nibbles.

After only 24 hours on eBay, I've had a dozen PM's and already hit the reserve! Hate to say it, but eBay appears to be the best place to sell, by far.

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Old 08-23-2006, 12:06 AM   #22
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The problem with trying to sell on the forum is that most of the people here already have one
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:11 AM   #23
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I'll chime in here. It is really a very simple decision. It is YOUR trailer YOU can choose to sell it to him or not. If it bothers you then don't do it. There are plenty of other people out there who are looking for an Airstream in good condition. Do what you feel is the right thing to do.

Personally, I would not sell any trailer to anyone that didn't have a proper set up. We live in a litigous world and I don't want it coming back on me if he has a wreck 5 miles down the road because he/she hasn't got the proper vehicle for the job.
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Old 08-23-2006, 12:31 AM   #24
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I agree!

I agree with Chris! We wouldn't sell our family pet to just anyone... and certainly not our Airstreams either!

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Old 11-12-2006, 05:08 AM   #25
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Being a complete novice here and needing to pick up a 26' Overlander and drive it several hundred miles back to the UK what exactly should I be looking for to tow it? See to me a Land Rover Discovery with a 3.9 V8 sounds okay but obviously from this forum it isn't. Can you please explain why?
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Old 11-12-2006, 05:43 AM   #26
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I have two vehicles that I can tow with and one is a land rover discovery. I tow a globetrotter and the disco works fine, but it's not stock. I've upgraded the suspension and tires. The longer Tundra works better for longer trips.

I wouldn't tow anything heavier than my GT with the Disco. Towing an Overlander w/ a Range Rover is asking for trouble. Hopefully he'll read the forums and come to his senses.... but for you, take the money if you have a buyer.


I recall one magazine editor towing his Argosy with a Honday Pilot..... Anythings possible.


Funny enough, as I was tabbing through the Airstream portal page, I came across this http://www.airforums.com/photo...434&catid=3054

Pretty damn close to a range rover in my opinion
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Old 11-12-2006, 06:26 AM   #27
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I have seen a lot of US pickups on ebay UK.
A few weeks ago there was 1981 dodge that would be great to tow with.
And it was listed @ 850 GBP buy it now.
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Hard question.
What's really interesting is that Remco is in the Netherlands, and even within the US there would be different cultural and legal implications between, say NY and Ohio or between California and New Mexico.

Ethically, probably just pointing out what you already have is sufficient. After all, you could tow it across the street with a garden tractor. When we sold the hybrid, the new owner didn't have a brake controller, but only planned to tow it 6 flat miles 4-5 times a year. I still didn't like it, and gave him a vivid description of the fun involved when you come up on an orange light about to turn red on a 90KPH highway and the guy in front of you slams the brakes. It was phrased so that a potential accident would have been someone else's fault. You could see the wheels turning.

Then there's the whole money aspect. You've touched on a point. In order to make the most money, one must make certain sacrifices, either to conscience, pride, common sense, or all of the above. Where one draws the line is intensely personal. While a trailer - especially one you've sunk some time and emotional energy into - is worth something beyond money, ultimately it is just a "thing."

As far as the forum ads... we looked at two, both advertised here. We bought the second one (although the first was fine, but a bit tight for 4). The ad for the second one appeared on a Tuesday. We responded Tuesday night, and set up a time to see it on Saturday. By Wednesday he had a cash offer over the phone. Much to the seller's credit, he never even mentioned the phone offer until we made our offer (which he accepted). I appreciate that.
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