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11-21-2013, 02:52 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2000 23' Safari
Vero Beach
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Don't know. Mother in Law gave it to me just before she died.
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11-21-2013, 03:29 PM
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#282
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Those 2 roof airs are electric heat pumps as well- and they throw off some real warm, toasty, cozy, heat up in the 'Stream- in about a minute flat-
Drain/blow out with compressed air before you go- if you want city water when you get there just hook up- although I really don't foresee it being cold enough for the lines to freeze on a short trip.
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11-21-2013, 04:37 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Weather forecast for next weekend still looks good- highs in the 50's, lows in the 30's and 40's with no rain-
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11-21-2013, 04:39 PM
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#284
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
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Imma
Ballah
Shot callah
20" blades
On da impawla
Gonna call 'er...
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11-21-2013, 05:21 PM
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#285
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Rivet Master
2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Yep - I rechecked and weather looks nice
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11-21-2013, 05:24 PM
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#286
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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Join Date: Oct 2012
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If'n we was all countin' on da weatherman for groceries we'd all starve to death...
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11-21-2013, 08:13 PM
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#287
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Rivet Master
1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by m.hony
Those 2 roof airs are electric heat pumps as well- and they throw off some real warm, toasty, cozy, heat up in the 'Stream- in about a minute flat-
Drain/blow out with compressed air before you go- if you want city water when you get there just hook up- although I really don't foresee it being cold enough for the lines to freeze on a short trip.
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Just keep in mind that heat pumps loose their effectiveness colder it gets out side. Check your book for the units it should state when cold is too cold for the unit to pull heat out of air. I want to say I heard 40 degrees..
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11-22-2013, 02:55 AM
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2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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I have not yet been in temperatures low enough for the heat pump not to work. I doubt I would be camping if it is that cold, but if I do I still have the propane furnace.
I just use the heat pumps instead of the propane furnace to conserve the propane.
I already have electricity at the campsite- no extra cost-
If I run the propane furnace I have to pay to refill the propane tanks.
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11-22-2013, 08:04 AM
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#289
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Rivet Master
2014 31' Classic
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2013 25' FB International
Apache Junction
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The blower noise associated with the use of the heat pump in our 25FB made the use of the quieter propane furnace a good deal for getting us to sleep and still have what is left of our hearing operational in the morning.
I believe the heat strip in the 25FB Air Conditioner unit was 4,000 BTUs (as I remember from 40 years ago, there are 3,400 BTUs to a kilowatt of electricity) vs the 25,000 BTUs in the input of the furnace. The net output of the furnace would probably be in the neighborhood of 20,000 BTUs and the heat is also blown around the "fluid" tanks in the belly to keep them from freezing.
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11-22-2013, 08:22 AM
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#290
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Rivet Master
2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
, Mississippi
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The heat pumps are loud, but I have 2- I can run the one in front when I am sleeping in the back-
The propane furnace is loud, too.
The only roof airs that are quieter are the ducted ones in sobs. We know Airstream can have ducted air because of the new Land Yacht concept...
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11-22-2013, 08:37 AM
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#291
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2006 22' Interstate
Mont Vernon
, New Hampshire
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I grew up near HSV. Monte Sano is a beautiful park with lots of hiking and a waterfall. i have never camped there but will this spring. Best of luck!
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11-22-2013, 12:38 PM
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#292
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2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
, Alabama
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we had the roof unit on the first night we camped at the dealer....the loud part does not bother me...what drove me nuts was going from off to ON...next time I will simply leave fan on low or medium instead of auto to mitigate and indeed use the center unit..
The furnace is significantly quieter...not even close in our unit...oh you can hear it come on...but nothing like the overhead HP cutting on, wow, I had read they are load, and folks were right!
bugsbunny...ill let you know what I think....I need to call them actually and talk and see if I can get a reservation or if I have to just show up there...little squeamish about planning without having a reservation on a holiday weekend...I am hoping they will give me an idea of how busy they will be...surely if we check in on thanksgiving day itself that it will not be bad?
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11-22-2013, 12:57 PM
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#293
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Figment of My Imagination
2012 Interstate Coach
From All Over
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
bugsbunny...ill let you know what I think....I need to call them actually and talk and see if I can get a reservation or if I have to just show up there...little squeamish about planning without having a reservation on a holiday weekend...I am hoping they will give me an idea of how busy they will be...surely if we check in on thanksgiving day itself that it will not be bad?
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Since most of my camping is on holiday weekends, I always make a point of getting reservations. That usually involves a small "reservation fee" but is cheap insurance compared to having to settle for someplace else— or worse, turn around and go home— at the last minute.
On the other hand, Thanksgiving weekend isn't exactly a prime camping weekend, since the vast majority will be at home watching parades and football games, and eating in sybaritic comfort. Last year, the campgrounds I visited for the Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year's weekends were nowhere close to full. Even if you take your chances, you'll probably be all right.
The holidays where reservations are mandatory are Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Labor Day. Those weekends, everyone who can camp, does camp.
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11-22-2013, 12:58 PM
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2013 30' Classic
Greenwood
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...and the fact that it cycles on/off so often...
But I am cheap- make the propane last-
Also- make a reservation- might save some headache and frustration-
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11-22-2013, 06:58 PM
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#295
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2012 30' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
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Nice thing about the main a/c hear pump is that it will kick off and the propane furnace will automatically turn on when outside temp gets so low. I think the temp is 40 f. First time it happened to us I thought something was wrong, then remembered reading that fact in the manual. However, we've gone to the Atwood furnace of late for the noise consideration. Do love the heat pumps in the day time for $$ savings.
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11-22-2013, 08:48 PM
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#296
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1969 29' Ambassador
brooksville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Howard L.
Nice thing about the main a/c hear pump is that it will kick off and the propane furnace will automatically turn on when outside temp gets so low. I think the temp is 40 f. First time it happened to us I thought something was wrong, then remembered reading that fact in the manual. However, we've gone to the Atwood furnace of late for the noise consideration. Do love the heat pumps in the day time for $$ savings.
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Wow that is really cool. AS really took the time to think through that one. I doubt any SOB has that..
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11-22-2013, 09:23 PM
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#297
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmGeek
we had the roof unit on the first night we camped at the dealer....the loud part does not bother me...what drove me nuts was going from off to ON...next time I will simply leave fan on low or medium instead of auto to mitigate and indeed use the center unit.. The furnace is significantly quieter...not even close in our unit...oh you can hear it come on...but nothing like the overhead HP cutting on, wow, I had read they are load, and folks were right! bugsbunny...ill let you know what I think....I need to call them actually and talk and see if I can get a reservation or if I have to just show up there...little squeamish about planning without having a reservation on a holiday weekend...I am hoping they will give me an idea of how busy they will be...surely if we check in on thanksgiving day itself that it will not be bad?
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We use a small ceramic heater when connected to shore power. Quiet and efficient. We do use the furnace to warm up the trailer in the morning, or if we are concerned about freezing.
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11-23-2013, 07:43 AM
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#298
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4 Rivet Member
2017 27' Tommy Bahama
2016 30' Flying Cloud
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Hot Springs Village
, Arkansas
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We also use a small ceramic heater to keep the trailer warm at night. It is extremely quiet and does keep the 28Ft trailer warm.
Rick
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11-23-2013, 07:52 AM
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#299
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2014 30' FB FC Bunk
Hoover
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Is there some rating on such a heater? BTU's? Which one is recommended - may consider this route.
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11-23-2013, 08:41 AM
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#300
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4 Rivet Member
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Hot Springs Village
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We have used these for years. Ours is a Pelonis 4 Disc Ceramic Heater. It is rated for 5200 Btu's. It has a built in thermostat which regulates the heater temperature and the fan speed. Has a tip-over safety switch and thermal overload protection. It also has a fan only setting. I think the model number is B-6A1. We have tried several over the years that were too noisy or bulky. You will be surprised how small this one is, but it heats our trailer very well.
Rick
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