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Old 02-05-2007, 06:49 PM   #1
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Windows?

Are all windows the same quality in all models? We have an Excella Classic now and love the windows. Wondered if the Safari has the same windows?

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Old 02-05-2007, 06:55 PM   #2
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Are all windows the same quality in all models? We have an Excella Classic now and love the windows. Wondered if the Safari has the same windows?

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The newer Safari windows don't open like the Classics. Only a small portion opens at the bottome of the window assembly.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:00 PM   #3
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The safari windows are less than decent....

I have a 05 Safari, and the windows are less than decent. They are drafty, have no ventilation, not user friendly to open (little knob that turns 50times) and do not look to the overall quality of an Airstream. Stand next to one (classic, international, safari SE) and compare to intro level Safari.

Worth the Bank $$ to upgrade.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:09 PM   #4
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I have a 05 Safari, and the windows are less than decent. They are drafty, have no ventilation, not user friendly to open (little knob that turns 50times) and do not look to the overall quality of an Airstream. Stand next to one (classic, international, safari SE) and compare to intro level Safari.

Worth the Bank $$ to upgrade.
You can get Classic style windows in a Safari by ordering the SE Package.
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:53 PM   #5
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You can get Classic style windows in a Safari by ordering the SE Package.
The International CCD line has the same windows too. I had those on my '74 Argosy and jumped at the chance to get them on my Safari Special Edition. The air circulation is most welcome!
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Old 02-05-2007, 07:57 PM   #6
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Curious... is the opening the same - such that you could change out the 1/3 opening safari for the full opening classic?

For those that are not happy perhaps they could change out just a couple of the window to get more air?
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:11 PM   #7
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Yeah..

The openings are close to the same, the radius's are different. It has been done. Check Rich Luhrs website to see what David Tidmore did to the Safari 30.

Expensive retrofit.
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I agree. It's a pricey retrofit. I am floored that the factory can't make it at least an option. The standard Safari windows blow....literally in wind conditions. All that has been said is true. One of the biggest shortcomings of the Safari line (non SE) is the windows...they are cheap, don't seal well, are not as user friendly as the CCD/Classic windows and provide very little airflow in the coach, unless you have one, or better yet, two fantastic vents. Most (read not all) the window dimentions are the same, and since they are already making the CCD and SE versions, I just don't see how the factory can't make the windows optional.....it's not a major production line change than what is already being offered in the bulk of the Bambi/Safari floorplans as SE and CCD models.

The only problem IMHO going with the SE edition (or CCD) is that you get the interior aluminum skins. I personally think they look neat, but I like the traditional interiors. Besides, to pay $5k for the windows and the inside exposed skins, when all most want is the window, seems a bit steep.
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The openings are close to the same, the radius's are different. It has been done. Check Rich Luhrs website to see what David Tidmore did to the Safari 30.

Expensive retrofit.
Hey that is pretty cool - so just a bit of extra aluminum in the corners where you would not see it behind the frame flange and presto you can change them out.

We have changed out the two corner windows on the 69 - time consuming but really doable for the DIY'er with patience.

I asked this because I do like the Safaris and If I ever found one I might buy it - but the windows are just such a drag. But we have the 99 Excella donor trailer here that we can snafu the windows out of if need be.

Hubby just woke up and said what don't you want the vintage ones anymore???
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