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Old 02-15-2012, 10:23 AM   #29
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I've never let somebody else dictate my life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.. and I don't plan on rolling over anytime soon. We'll simply make it work.
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What a great statement. I completely agree with you. The only concession, I may make is that if the distance is real long and the time is short and I am going by myself then I may just take my car (30 mpg), bicycle and tent.

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Old 02-15-2012, 10:25 AM   #30
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My Excursion gets around 9 MPG pulling the 31 ft Excella II. It gets around 8 MPG on the ethanol crap we have in Alabama. We got to keep those farmers nice and fat on that corn.

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$3.839 and 'counting' for 87rated gasoline in Northern Calif today - our Excursion's thirsty...!

You bet, $5/gallon fuel will influence our travel plans! I can see shorter trips in our future - like to the bank for a 'fuel loan'...

Bad part is, just as the RV biz seems to be gaining some strength again, high fuel prices will surly put another damper on sales...

Also, and you heard it here first (?), there will be another 'change' in Washington if we see gasoline rise to about $5/gal this fall...
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:43 AM   #31
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I can remember we used to say good thing gas doesn't cost as much as a gallon of milk . Woodfox45 WBCCI 14183
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Old 02-15-2012, 10:51 AM   #32
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Hmmm, too bad. I thought driving more slowly always improved mpg, but then what do I know, apparently.

Fuel costs are always the greatest expense for us, too, but keeping speed down definitely improves mpg.


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Maggie,

I'm guessing there's some pretty big performance differences between our rigs.. I'm not saying slowing down doesn't improve mpg, all things being equal.
For whatever reason, my rig drinks the gas, hitched or un, and there's very little variation with speed.
I used to do 75 mph pulling the trailer, then realized it was probably wiser to do 65 max. The ST tires were happier, but there was no difference in mpg.
We did a lot of secondary roads, and sightseeing at 45 mph or less, and the mpg went waaaay down, because of the stop and go.

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Old 02-15-2012, 10:56 AM   #33
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I have worked too long/hard and too much all my life, always with the thought of holidaying at this point in my life cycle to let the cost of fuel stop me from traveling or doing what I feel like doing now. That does not mean I won't try to find the lowest price on route.
People now spend near as much on electronic gadgets and their usage bills as my annual fuel costs.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:09 AM   #34
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My Excursion gets around 9 MPG pulling the 31 ft Excella II. It gets around 8 MPG on the ethanol crap we have in Alabama. We got to keep those farmers nice and fat on that corn.

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I'd rather pay farmers to grow corn for ethanol than to subsidize them for not growing anything, like we used to do. Besides, adding ethanol isn't to benefit the farmers; it's to benefit the oil companies. Using my own SUV as an example, I made trip to visit my parents a couple of years ago, burning gas only one way, and gas plus ethanol the other way. Each leg of the trip was 760 miles.

Without ethanol, I got about 19 miles per gallon, for a total of 40 gallons of gasoline used. With ethanol, I got about 17 miles per gallon, for a total of 45 gallons used, of which 40Ĺ was gaoline and the other 4Ĺ was ethanol. Rough calculation, 10% ethanol reduced my mileage by 12%. Adding ethanol made my vehicle use MORE gasoline! Hard to say that ethanol reduces our dependency on foreign oil when looked at in those terms, don't you think?

In response to the original question of whether rising prices will affect my summer travel plans, the answer is, not really. I'm already resigned to higher prices anyway, now that I have my wonderful new Airstream Interstate with its 3-liter turbo-diesel, and which is now my preferred road-trip vehicle whether I'm going to a campsite or not.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:56 AM   #35
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These were the prices in Death Valley not long ago - and we'll probably see the same throughout the country in the not-so-distant future!
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:28 PM   #36
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The farmers do not benefit from ethanol greedy oil co. do e85 bad mileage read stats about where our oil comes from also #1 export is gasoline just like Alaska pipe line had to have all goes overseas & does not come back {high sulfur} there is surplus of gas in us.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:56 PM   #37
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I just got back from a trip to Quartzsite, AZ, roughly 3200 miles round trip. Gas averaged about $3.40/gallon, F-150 with 19' AS got about 11mpg, for a total of just under $1000 for gas. All to spend just $40 for BLM camping permit.
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Old 02-15-2012, 12:56 PM   #38
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Today's price of gasoline is $2.993, New York Harbor RBOB. Beyond that you're paying taxes, taxes, taxes, some transportation, and a few pennies to the station owner. Oil & Gas Journal- Oil and Gas News, Prices, Oil Drilling, Exploration and Production
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Today's price of gasoline is $2.993, New York Harbor RBOB. Beyond that you're paying taxes, taxes, taxes, some transportation, and a few pennies to the station owner.
Back when my dad used to own a service station, Oklahoma state law set the maximum amount that the station could mark up prices from what they paid wholesale. We only made $0.07 per gallon. Of course, that was back in the 70's, and it's probably higher now, but the average service station makes a bigger profit margin on just about everything else they sell than they do on gasoline..
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We also start watching for a good price on diesel once we're down a quarter of a tank or so, then top it off. Amazing how prices can vary 20 cents a gallon within a few miles.

I know, I know---sometimes I sound so tight it's a wonder I don't squeak, but those small savings add up. Once upon a time, I was an extremely impoverished, young single mother. That kind of stuff never really leaves you. I can squeeze blood out of a turnip!


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Old 02-15-2012, 02:57 PM   #41
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OMG. I had NO idea how little mpg some of you guys get. I thought 18 or 19 mpg because of wind and snow was horrible. (Especially compared to the 42 I normally get unhitched.)

Count my blessings, I guess!
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:19 PM   #42
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Hmmm, too bad. I thought driving more slowly always improved mpg, but then what do I know, apparently. Maggie
Depends on the tow vehicle. I drive a diesel and get equal or better fuel mileage at 62 than at 55. At 55, the ROM is too low and not in the best range for economy. At 62, it takes a serious hill to get me out of 6th gear.
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