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Old 09-04-2009, 09:49 PM   #1
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Who actually owns this site?

I notice this statement at the bottom of this site...
"Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC."
The mind begs an answer to a question.
Who is "Social Knowledge LLC" and, in what way are they connected to this Airforums?
Just a straight answer will do..
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Old 09-04-2009, 10:57 PM   #2
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Does it really matter?

Hi, my understanding is this forum and all of the other forums listed on the bottom left are owned by Andy R.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:21 PM   #3
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Thanks for your reply.
And, yes it matters.. otherwise I wouldn't asked the question.
I was surfing the web and, came across a site that was talking abt
airforums site and, how Social Knowledge LLC was making money from not only the members but from the number of hits per day on all of the websites.
I wanted to find out if there was any truth as to this guy's statements.
I reckon the truth is plain as day.
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Old 09-04-2009, 11:32 PM   #4
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The forum is owned by one guy Andy R (Andy Robinowitz). He has a small company called social knowledge llc and has collected several forums over the years. This was his first forum and was started as a hobby because he needed to restore his bambi.

As the site grew it took up more and more time to run it and eventually he quit his day job to run this forum. He aquired or built a few more sites and it turned into a going concern. Some people collect Airstreams - Andy seems to collect forums.

It costs money to keep the lights on here - bandwidth, etc all costs bucks. So - yes there is revenue from ads, etc. It amazes me that folks think that there is no cost associated with maintaining a large website - but they do.

Moderators here volunteer their time and lots of members help out by contributing articles and other content, for most of us it's about connecting with the airstream community and that's in keeping with the origins of this forum
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I am curious, what are some of the other forums he owns/collects?
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I am curious, what are some of the other forums he owns/collects?
See the bottom left of the page for the links to other social knowledge sites

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Old 09-05-2009, 02:01 AM   #7
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I'm also a member of the rv forum and the cooking forum, both are very good with lots of information.

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That's an interesting question! You've been around since almost the beginning here; certainly before I joined in '03. You were around when some of us donated to Andy for one of the first server upgrades in late '03... If I may be so bold... what would prompt your concern now some six or seven years down the road?

Oh, and BTW... I can tell you that Andy isn't the next Warren Buffett from his collection of forums...

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ON EDIT: I did a little research... and I expect I found the site you found....

That's amusing... obviously Airforums.com and Social Knowledge LLC are the Area 51 of the Internet! Geez...
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:59 AM   #9
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ON EDIT: I did a little research... and I expect I found the site you found....

That's amusing... obviously Airforums.com and Social Knowledge LLC are the Area 51 of the Internet! Geez...
That site, which was very critical of AirForums, is actually the site that led me to the AirForums in the first place, over a year and a half ago. I enjoy the delicious irony.

I'm not certain why some people seem offended that a person could make money off a forum like this one? Whether it's only enough to pay the bills, or enough to make Sam Walton look like a pauper, is irrelevant to me. I don't get angry when the owner of my favorite restaurant makes money from my patronage, so I don't know why anyone would be upset if the owner of this Forum does the same?

And here's the kicker-- unless you CHOOSE to donate, this Forum is free to users as well. If the owner generates revenue from advertising, it's still no different than most other sites out there. Except for this one, there is absolutely no charge unless you choose to contribute.

Anyway, I'd like to thank Andy R and the administrators and moderators for running a fantastic site. I've participated in, moderated, and owned many online Forums (we used to call them BBSs) over the past 2+ decades, and this is one of the very best I've ever been a part of.

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Old 09-05-2009, 08:16 AM   #10
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Thumbs up

Whatever the cost, should one decide to support (or not), it's well worth it. There's nothing out there that even comes close to this Airstream community. And I kind of like the "Area 51" reference.
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Old 09-05-2009, 08:46 AM   #11
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Greetings from the Florida Panhandle

I have participated and continue to participate on a number of forums that relate to my various interests.

Some are better than others. Most have some good information, and I have learned many things. Some are real snoozers. All are started with good intentions, and have some type of advertising to keep them going.

Airforums is, by far, the best, most active, most informative, best moderated (I felt this way long before becoming one of the moderators), best organized, and most progressive forum of any kind that I have ever seen.

If Andy R. can make a living by doing forums, more power to him. This is the American way. If this does not sit well with someone, there is another Airstream Forum out there.

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I applaud Organic Andy's profits. Did he ever fix his Bambi?

However the member who asked has every right to ask IMHO. really no need to talk down to him for a simple and courteous question. I did not read it that he was complaining about profitability.
It would make a much better forum world if all classes of members tried to follow the nice rule. Not just the bourgeois pizzants like many of us.


Hey Marcus which forums did you moderate and which did you own over the last 20 years? Looks like you are fishing to become one here. Hope it works out for you.
Are your above mentioned forums still up? I'd like to check them out.
BTW What is the site that is bad mouthing this forum? Tell me by PM if you fear putting it on the public forum please.
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However the member who asked has every right to ask IMHO. really no need to talk down to him for a simple and courteous question. I did not read it that he was complaining about profitability.
It would make a much better forum world if all classes of members had to follow the nice rule. Not just the bourgeois pizzants like many of us.
It's not a matter of the right to ask... it's that the subject is treated like running a website for profit is somehow secret, shameful, or scandalous.

It's common knowledge.

There's nothing wrong with providing a service for a profit (albeit small). And it's unfortunate that you seem to feel that there's some class distinction in the operation of the forums. I can assure you that the staff of the forums do our level best to ensure that the rules are administered as even-handedly as is humanly possible.

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I applaud Organic Andy's profits. Did he ever fix his Bambi?

However the member who asked has every right to ask IMHO. really no need to talk down to him for a simple and courteous question. I did not read it that he was complaining about profitability.
It would make a much better forum world if all classes of members tried to follow the nice rule. Not just the bourgeois pizzants like many of us.


Hey Marcus which forums did you moderate and which did you own over the last 20 years? Looks like you are fishing to become one here. Hope it works out for you.
Are your above mentioned forums still up? I'd like to check them out.
BTW What is the site that is bad mouthing this forum? Tell me by PM if you fear putting it on the public forum please.
I'll Take Louisana Monroe and 66 points for 50 if you are confident.
Ha! We all know Mack will pull the starters in the 3rd if the score is getting out of hand. Texas seldom covers ridiculous spreads for that reason.

The BBSs I owned and operated were back in the 80s and early 90s, they were private and none are currently functioning (I ran one of them from my own personal Apple IIe, and another from a university server). The ones I've moderated are college football forums (a great passion of mine as you obviously know ).

But I no longer moderate any of them, and am DEFINITELY not looking to be asked to moderate here. I prefer to remain a normal member, it is more fun for me that way.

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