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StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 04:27 PM

The "Disapprove" button for Karma? Did people get their feelings hurt and cry about it? If someone gives bad info, we're not allowed to point it out in the forums, because it's perceived as confrontation (I've tried, both the bull by the horns approach and the subtle approach and have been censored on both counts). What's the recourse for know-it-alls who are just dead wrong?

Thanks for the answers.

Frederic

clancy_boy · 09-11-2007, 04:30 PM

Ohhhhhh, I'm not so sure this thread will be around for long so I want to get a post in just because.

I have no comment.

Read the following:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f318...ate-32609.html

overlander63 · 09-11-2007, 04:34 PM

The "I disapprove" button was removed after too many "I disapprove" buttons were pushed, and too many peeing contests erupted. Then the contestants would complain to us moderators, or go around finding every post the other contestant had made, and "disapproved" them. It just went 'round and 'round, until everyone involved got sucked into the swirling vortex.

StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 04:41 PM

That is just plain sad.....and people wonder why the political situation in Washington is FUBAR....we're at the lowest possible level (because this Forum really is a government when you look at it) and the system doesn't work.

Frederic

InsideOut · 09-11-2007, 04:42 PM

So now, when it comes to karma it's....

"If you can't say something nice, say nothing at all!"

Shari

overlander63 · 09-11-2007, 04:44 PM

I liked the system, it gave everyone the opportunity to let the poster know if his post was good or bad. But, like so many good things, people abused the system, and it had to be shelved.

TomW · 09-11-2007, 04:53 PM

In this software, the moderators can still dispense bad karma as a first line defense against objectionable posts.

I assume Andy R has allowed this, but do not know.

More than likely he has, but none of the current mods strike me as the type to actually use it.

But now that I think about it, Bob seems like a mean 'un.

I'M KIDDING, BOB!

But red karma is still possible if circumstances are appropriate.

Tom

overlander63 · 09-11-2007, 04:53 PM

I suppose, if somebody really, REALLY hacked you off with a post, you could leave them positive karma, and put a negative comment in the comment area. It is called a backhanded compliment. It would add to their karma, but they would see the comment until it dropped off their "most recent" page. If you do this, try to keep it civil, we don't want to lose the ability to post karmments.

overlander63 · 09-11-2007, 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomW

In this software, the moderators can still dispense bad karma as a first line defense against objectionable posts.

I assume Andy R has allowed this, but do not know.

More than likely he has, but none of the current mods strike me as the type to actually use it.

But now that I think about it, Bob seems like a mean 'un.

I'M KIDDING, BOB!

But red karma is still possible if circumstances are appropriate.

Tom

Tom, it has been turned off across the board, no negative karma allowed by anybody, not even the mods.

InsideOut · 09-11-2007, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomW

In this software, the moderators can still dispense bad karma as a first line defense against objectionable posts.

I assume Andy R has allowed this, but do not know.

But red karma is still possible if circumstances are appropriate.

Tom

Nope...not even mods can not leave negative karma. That's what the "Warn Meter" is for ~ even it is rarely used and almost never without discussion amongst several moderators first.

Shari

StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 05:06 PM

You know, I had a couple paragraphs written, but I erased it because it wouldn't do any good.

People post misinformation and get away with it with no checks and balances.

I guess I can understand the decision to remove the disapprove button....don't wanna rock the boat, besides if someone ever got fed up with being lambasted about posting misinformation, they could always buy the website!

Frederic

dudebb · 09-11-2007, 05:07 PM

Ok, so where does one see Karma if it was sent to you?? i went to UserCP and didn't see a Karma area.
Thanks!

StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 05:09 PM

Press the UserCP button. If you have Karma, it'll show up on the page, with green boxes next to it.

By the way, if you had negative Karma, did it get erased?

Frederic

InsideOut · 09-11-2007, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingrayL82

By the way, if you had negative Karma, did it get erased?

Frederic

No.

Shari

StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 05:12 PM

Good.

StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 05:15 PM

I meant good that you can't remove the negative that's already there. Next question Terry, Shari, Jim&Susan and other Mods......are we supposed to bombard you with PM's now, if we find instances of misinformation/propaganda being posted on the forum?

Just curious, you know me

!

Frederic

overlander63 · 09-11-2007, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingrayL82

I meant good that you can't remove the negative that's already there. Next question Terry, Shari, Jim&Susan and other Mods......are we supposed to bombard you with PM's now, if we find instances of misinformation/propaganda being posted on the forum?

Just curious, you know me

!

Frederic

You're kidding, right?

StingrayL82 · 09-11-2007, 05:22 PM

Believe me, Terry, I wish I weren't. I'm doing everything I can right now to hold my tongue, because I made a promise that I would, but as Popeye once said, "I tooks all that I could, but I can't tooks no more".

I want to know what we can responsibly do to keep certain elements from speaking out of their fourth point of contact. I'm not going into any more detail about it, unless you PM me directly.

Frederic

InsideOut · 09-11-2007, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StingrayL82

I meant good that you can't remove the negative that's already there. Next question Terry, Shari, Jim&Susan and other Mods......are we supposed to bombard you with PM's now, if we find instances of misinformation/propaganda being posted on the forum?

Just curious, you know me

!

Frederic

Yep. Unfortunately...

Shari

SilverRanger · 09-11-2007, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by overlander63

I suppose, if somebody really, REALLY hacked you off with a post, you could leave them positive karma, and put a negative comment in the comment area. ... karmments.

Karmments... I like it. Karma to you, Terry.

Although I never used the feature when it existed, I believe the inability to post negative karma inspires us to be more diplomatic and creative in our responses to asinine posts.