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Old 09-27-2011, 09:15 PM   #29
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Some friends have a super light SOB from Earthbund that they're really happy with. I have noticed that it spends a lot of time in the shop. Or, maybe they just use that as an excuse to not travel with us.
I can't imagine anyone looking for excuses to avoid traveling with y'all, unless they're afraid you're going to pressure them into ziplining our something. I think my sister's budget falls a bit short of Earthbound, but they look nice. Esp. the modern interiors.
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Old 09-27-2011, 09:24 PM   #30
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If ya gotta move to a SOB...don't worry to much about the decal on the side...look at the construction...'stick and staple' construction looks really good from the price but it will probably de-compose around you (I know, I have one!). I suggest looking for Aluminum structure. I had a Holiday that was built in the late '80's and realllllly liked it. We have non-descript toy hauler at work with the same construction and it's been good so-far.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:08 PM   #31
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About a month ago at a campground, a couple showed me their 2008 or 09 28 ft front kitchen Vlite of some kind. I think the parent company was Forest River and I was impressed by the trailer. It had a single slide, had a nice design, ducted ac in the ceiling and aluminum structure I believe. I will post more info on it tomorrow. I think I have a brochure some place.

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:20 PM   #32
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If ya gotta move to a SOB...don't worry to much about the decal on the side...look at the construction...'stick and staple' construction looks really good from the price but it will probably de-compose around you (I know, I have one!). I suggest looking for Aluminum structure. I had a Holiday that was built in the late '80's and realllllly liked it. We have non-descript toy hauler at work with the same construction and it's been good so-far.
That's definitely turning out to be the common thread among the recommendations... they all have aluminum frames. I wasn't aware that there were several white-box manufactuers using aluminum frames instead of stick-frame, so I'll definitely steer my sister that way if I can't get her to go for aluminum skin.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:24 PM   #33
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DKB, two questions come to mind: Are they going to tow it that much (or will it get parked and then lived in)? Second, do they want to keep it once they're done?

This runs counter to lots of the advice above - I think that if your sister's goals are to find something to park and live in, and then basically dispose when finished, focusing on buying something near new and reasonably constructed (if not exactly built to last) would do the trick. Yes, many modern SOBs are disposable and less-than-awesome to tow - but that might actually fit the bill here. The goal isn't to be stylish, or last for years and years and years. Of course, that assumes it's good enough to be comfortable for those two years...

I'm just thinking of the last RV show I went to, with all of the long trailers with 3 flat-screen TVs that were priced at $15,999 - with the slack economy/end of the season, you'd think there would be a decent range of stuff out there...

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I realize I'm a nerd when one of my first thoughts was "Wow, 3 good flat-screens would cost more than 10% of the total price!"

They will definitely be parked the vast majority of the time. I didn't realize that crappy new big trailers could be had that cheap, I was thinking on the order of 2x that for the cheapest ones. It's an approach to consider.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:41 PM   #34
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Another quality trailer is the Sunnybrook, that was my second choice. It was up with the Big foot, but they had been discontinued. You might also consider the Jayco Designer series.
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:11 PM   #35
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About a month ago at a campground, a couple showed me their 2008 or 09 28 ft front kitchen Vlite of some kind. I think the parent company was Forest River and I was impressed by the trailer. It had a single slide, had a nice design, ducted ac in the ceiling and aluminum structure I believe. I will post more info on it tomorrow. I think I have a brochure some place.

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Dan, would you believe those are rebranded Windjammers? The 28 is very close to the one I posted a link to.
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I'd be more concerned about the rubber roof. Unless you have the cash, you'll be dropping $5,000 on top of your monthly payment in 5 years to replace that EDPM.
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I'd be more concerned about the rubber roof. Unless you have the cash, you'll be dropping $5,000 on top of your monthly payment in 5 years to replace that EDPM.
Depending on the roof, it's usually about 2/3 that amount. Still a chunk of cash, though.
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No on ever says..."Oh look! There's another Jayco!" (Do they?)
yes, if you are towing a jayco and you pass someone else towing a jayco same as air
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I'd be more concerned about the rubber roof. Unless you have the cash, you'll be dropping $5,000 on top of your monthly payment in 5 years to replace that EDPM.
you can buy a rubber replacement for less than $500.00 not hard to install. care and cleaning you can get 20 years out of a rubber roof. even $500,000.00 motor homes have rubber roofs.
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Old 09-28-2011, 07:28 PM   #40
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Gosh, you learn something everyday on this forum. I was so impressed with the layout of the V-Lite by Forest River for that 28 footer with the front kitchen. I was surprised when I looked at the current models that they no longer have that size/layout. Oh well, I liked the layout but no one else did. Anyhow, I am puzzled by the construction details. They say the walls, ceiling and floor are "vacuum bonded" (whatever that means) and have an aluminum structure. The r values were quite high- like 7 for the walls, 14 for the ceiling and 4 or 5 for the floor. It also has a torsion bar type suspension, similar to what Airstream uses.

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If they are going to stay put for 2 years or more how about a mobile home? Not much more money but a lot more room. When they are ready to move on, sell it.
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:04 PM   #42
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Okay, first off, I haven't gone crazy (no moreso than usual, at any rate.) I'm not about to give up my Argosy.

My sister is looking at full-timing. My brother-in-law works in the oil and gas services industry, and they're looking at a LONG project (2+ years) far from where they've been living. My sister is tired of being apart for a week or more at a time, their kids are out on their own and they live in a rental so most of the big downside issues are not a problem.

They want bigger and newer than an Airstream they can afford (they want to pay cash, they'd be happiest with $10k-ish.) They'd like more than 30' long with slide(s), and prefer a bumper-pull because they don't want to jump into the 5th wheel thing right off (they have a capable F150 now and don't want to buy another truck at the same time they're buying a trailer AND relocating.)

Let's not get into aesthetic judgments here, I think they're butt-ugly inside and out, I'm looking for technical input.

What does our Airstream hive mind know about various brands of SOBs? I have heard good things about Arctic Fox, and I've found one a bit above their budget, but it's fairly new and might be worth the financial stretch. It's not all that close to me so I haven't gone to inspect it yet, but I'm likely to be the inspector for most of the ones she considers.

Specifically, I'm looking for known problems, known-good brands/models, known-bad brands/models, and if anyone knows of a cream puff for sale cheap in north TX or east TX I'd love to know about that too.

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Several big Avions for sale in Texas at present. Three decent Silver Streaks as well.

I know they all want slide-outs for this business. Americans and their guts so big that they find it embarrassing to have to manuever around someone else in confined quarters. They seem never to think that they'll be sleeping or sitting about 99.3% of the time.

I'd just look for a generic 26'-30' with a Super Slide (one big slide) with bedrooms at either end. That way there is always the chance of peace and quiet for the one sleeping.

I'd consider the TT to be a throwaway. It won't be hard to re-sell what with all the oilfield workers needing housing. An Arctic Fox, nice as it is, will be as trashed as anything else. Caliche dust is murder.

What does the accountant say? Depreciation, per diem, etc. A corporation to own it is the way to go if possible.

A 5'er might be easiest. Plenty of RV haulers around in this state (and others who can do it with all paperwork & insurance).


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