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Old 09-26-2011, 12:02 PM   #29
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I don't doubt Thor has considered this carefully.
I do doubt it. It is a large corporation with many brands and whether they talk to each other cannot be assumed.

But I don't think Airstream has anything to worry about. The Vantage has curves, but doesn't look like an Airstream. If they brought out a low priced composite trailer badged an Airastream, then there would be a problem. That would cheapen the Airstream name and affect the whole line.

It is hard to tell from the photos of the interior just how good or bad it looks. The fabric designs do not impress me and look retro in a way I don't care for. I wondered whether the doors are a door within a door since I saw something that looked like it might be that design.

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Old 09-26-2011, 12:29 PM   #30
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I would like to see a picture of the inside with the slide in the travel position. Would there be much room to access the rear of the trailer while traveling down the road?
I spoke with a camper next to me earlier this summer with a brand new trailer with a slide on both sides. They had to open up one slide so they could load the refrigerator. Nice while set up at a campground but not much good for people on the move.
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:39 PM   #31
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Gotta vent here, I apologize in advance.

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...looks like a monorail and a shuttle bus had a baby...
Absolutely, and the interior seen in the Flickr photos? Completely forgettable! Padded window valances, yawntastic oak-ish cabinetry... why, oh why give us the same look as every other SOB?

This is the perfect example of a bunch of bean-counters with MBAs - and zero understanding of good design - doing something totally safe while trumpeting that it's cutting edge. There are dozens of impressive, young-thinking designers out there; many in the automotive world, based on the concept cars I've seen. But there are obviously NONE in the RV design world, and nobody had the guts to go outside the *literal* box they've safely stayed inside for decades. This is what a brand new concept looks like? This is what passes for a "game changer"?

Seriously, guys. You can be proud, even brag about it being your newest, lightest, high-tech manufacturing materials model... but the canvas dropcloth unveiling? Absolutely laughable.

Thor has (apparently) learned nothing from the vitality and energy Christopher Deam injected into our brand... and he was restricted to the interior!!

These guys brag that they had a blank slate... and came up with a 1970 Dodge motorhome, without the engine.

My nearly SIXTY YEAR OLD trailer looks more relevant than this egg carton. *Sigh* Whatever, I'll continue to wait until someone can come up with an RV that belongs in the 21st Century. Something actually new. Something to get excited about.

But the DisadVantage ain't it, folks.
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Old 09-26-2011, 12:54 PM   #32
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LOL Brad. I'm still stuck on this - the most junior designer at IKEA could have made a more modern interior than this one. Picking a basic (not fake granite) laminate or a bright veneer for the cabinets or better fabric wouldn't have cost much more (if any more at all).

That said, the interior is fairly subdued for a modern RV...although everything's relative...

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I always liked those DODGE MOTORHOMES.
That was "FORWARD ENGINEERING" at work.
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Gotta vent here, I apologize in advance.



These guys brag that they had a blank slate... and came up with a 1970 Dodge motorhome, without the engine.

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Old 09-26-2011, 02:24 PM   #34
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Thor's most advanced thought goes into cutting costs—MBA's at work. Brad is right. They have been at work at Airstream for years cheapening the product.

I've been trying to think of what it looks like—maybe a light rail car. Do they have couplers so you can tow a train of 5 of them down the track?

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Thor's most advanced thought goes into cutting costs—MBA's at work. Brad is right. They have been at work at Airstream for years cheapening the product.

I've been trying to think of what it looks like—maybe a light rail car. Do they have couplers so you can tow a train of 5 of them down the track?

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It looks like a modern houseboat. Throw a couple engines on there and a bridge on top and you're good to go. You can throw a line around that ugly interior and use it as the anchor.
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Completely forgettable! Padded window valances, yawntastic oak-ish cabinetry... why, oh why give us the same look as every other SOB?

This is the perfect example of a bunch of bean-counters with MBAs - and zero understanding of good design - doing something totally safe while trumpeting that it's cutting edge.
For a little bit I was in complete agreement with this post until I realized my 'stream has padded window valances and yawntastic "hickory"-ish cabinetry...plus I am a bean-counter!

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For a little bit I was in complete agreement with this post until I realized my 'stream has padded window valances and yawntastic "hickory"-ish cabinetry...plus I am a bean-counter!

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LOL! Damn, I just knew I was gonna step on a toe or two. Chris - nothing wrong with either of those things at all! See, in yours... they're part of a traditional, long lineage... cultivated with careful pride over decades by Airstream's design team. Classic window treatments - quality wood cabinetry.

I just feel like - if you tell me you've got a brand new product that's gonna "change" the "game" in a "gamechangey" way... well, we'd better be seeing something pretty far outside the same box we've been lookin' at all along!
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LOL! Damn, I just knew I was gonna step on a toe or two. Chris - nothing wrong with either of those things at all! See, in yours... they're part of a traditional, long lineage... cultivated with careful pride over decades by Airstream's design team. Classic window treatments - quality wood cabinetry.
Ha ha! My wife thinks the inside of our new AS looks like something you'd find in a mobile home park (she liked the interior of the Flying Cloud better). So, after several months of her commentary on interior decor, all my toes were bruised before you jumped on!

For what it is worth, I think this Vantage is quite unappealing...inside and outside. But...to each his own!

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For a little bit I was in complete agreement with this post until I realized my 'stream has padded window valances and yawntastic "hickory"-ish cabinetry...plus I am a bean-counter!

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There's a job waiting for you at Thor.

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I never drink the stuff because I don't like colored water. I also know what that "Rocky Mountain Spring Water" really is—creek water passing by many old mining sites with nasty stuff coming out of them.

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I like the bathroom mirror and the large windows in the entrance doors..
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