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Old 06-30-2012, 03:30 PM   #15
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Just to briefly answer your questions. . .

Originally Posted by nvestysly View Post
In the case of WBCCI I can certainly understand the need for disclaimers and the club providing insurance for rallies, caravans and other group functions. WBCCI is an entity with assets which need to be protected.
I have never seen a disclaimer at a WBCCI rally. WBCCI has (1) insurance, and (2) a lawyer.

Why then are Forum rallies posting disclaimers?
Because they don't have (1) insurance, and (2) a lawyer to tell them that disclaimers are of little value?

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Old 06-30-2012, 03:39 PM   #16
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After reading some of the posts on dif threads, if I were holding a rally I definitely would have a disclosure made up. Some who post here appear to be looking for things to complain about or sue about. Jim

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Old 06-30-2012, 03:51 PM   #17
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if i went to a concert where i got hurt could i sue the newspaper that ran the ad that caused me to buy the tickets?

where is it Japan where if you sue and lose you pay the legal bill? i like that idea.
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Old 06-30-2012, 11:46 PM   #18
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Originally Posted by richinny View Post
if i went to a concert where i got hurt could i sue the newspaper that ran the ad that caused me to buy the tickets?

where is it Japan where if you sue and lose you pay the legal bill? i like that idea.
Maybe. The issue isn't what ridiculous situation you can hypothesize and then call 'stupid'... it's if something happens can there be a link made to a party involved. Simply running an add would likely not make the newspaper party to the event... but sometimes newspapers, radio stations etc are also sponsors. Think they rely on the micro-print on the back of the ticket to protect them?

Whatever the incident, any lawyer is going to name ALL parties that are involved. It will be up to them to prove the link to the incident, but if you don't show up to defend yourself - who will?

In my line of work, when we are named in a lawsuit, it invariably reads "Bonehead vs. Constable Soandso, The City of Somewhere, and The Attorney General of Someprovince"

Liability isn't always a 100% finding either. Say a rally is organized via the forums, something horrible goes wrong and Airforums is named in the civil suit. They might be found only 5% at fault in contributing to the event... but what if it was a multi-million dollar judgement?

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