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Old 10-06-2007, 03:16 PM   #1
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Two Door Trailers - Airstream are you listening

I was lying in bed last night not sleeping well because a neighbor just had a fire in his trailer - probably caused by a 15 year old water heater. I'm lying in my bed in my 25' FB SE looking out the front window at my propane tanks and thinking about my water heater right under my bedroom closet. He got out of the small bedroom door on his trailer - the escape door.

I'm thinking about the "emergency exit window" at the foot of the bed that I long ago decided wasn't physically possible for me to get out of without attempting a swan dive from the foot of the bed. I'm not ancient, but the window is small and three feet off the floor..... it's a JOKE as an emergency exit.

I then thought, jeez why didn't they make this window into a DOOR? Of course it only took one more moment to realize that it would be on the roadside in the 25, but could easily be on the curb side on the 27 FB with queen... and the 25 could be reconfigured so that the bed was flopped to the other side and there was a door at the foot. (Of course with twins, it's a no-go either way.

I once more checked my secondary extinguishers, made a note to myself to replace the water heater at 10 years or earlier and finally drifted off to an uneasy night's sleep.

Remember ALWAYS do a safety check on your appliances and don't try to repair badly worn propane appliances, replace them.

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Old 10-06-2007, 03:37 PM   #2
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I was lying in bed last night not sleeping well because a neighbor just had a fire in his trailer - probably caused by a 15 year old water heater. I'm lying in my bed in my 25' FB SE looking out the front window at my propane tanks and thinking about my water heater right under my bedroom closet. He got out of the small bedroom door on his trailer - the escape door.

I'm thinking about the "emergency exit window" at the foot of the bed that I long ago decided wasn't physically possible for me to get out of without attempting a swan dive from the foot of the bed. I'm not ancient, but the window is small and three feet off the floor..... it's a JOKE as an emergency exit.

I then thought, jeez why didn't they make this window into a DOOR? Of course it only took one more moment to realize that it would be on the roadside in the 25, but could easily be on the curb side on the 27 FB with queen... and the 25 could be reconfigured so that the bed was flopped to the other side and there was a door at the foot. (Of course with twins, it's a no-go either way.

I once more checked my secondary extinguishers, made a note to myself to replace the water heater at 10 years or earlier and finally drifted off to an uneasy night's sleep.

Remember ALWAYS do a safety check on your appliances and don't try to repair badly worn propane appliances, replace them.

Paula
Paula, Great tip! I am sending you Karma for that one! Happy Trails, Ed
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:06 PM   #3
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Your post about a second door to replace the emergency exit window got me to thinking also. I, too, have a 25FB queen bed. I would love to see a second access door in place of that window. I would want it on the street side, though. It would need to be there (as the emergency window is) to provide access to or from the trailer if it were to somehow end up on its right side. I would also like to see it there for late night quick access to "sewer central". I would never again have to dash all the way around the trailer in my undewear to pull the gray water release handle prior to the shower pan overflowing. This arrangement would easily cut this trip in half. This could also be very beneficial in a black water emergency.

Some of what I just said was somewhat in jest, but the more I think about it, the better I like it. I went and measured, and the width of the opening of the window is the same as the door. We have an appointment at JC for Lucy to have some work done on October 22nd. I am going to ask them about the feasability of replacing that window with a door, and if it can be done, what would it cost.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:23 PM   #4
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Rivet Good Point.

Itís 16 feet from the closest edge of the bed in my Excella to the back of the dinette by the door. Thatís as long as some trailers. A second exit could have real benefit. Of course, there would be some loss of structural integrity and another place to leak.
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Old 10-06-2007, 04:25 PM   #5
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Good Good Point Paula!!!

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Old 10-06-2007, 05:00 PM   #6
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Itís 16 feet from the closest edge of the bed in my Excella to the back of the dinette by the door. Thatís as long as some trailers. A second exit could have real benefit. Of course, there would be some loss of structural integrity and another place to leak.
The loss of structural integrity would be minimal, if any. As to leaking, my door is about the only part of the trailer that has never leaked.
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Old 10-06-2007, 06:21 PM   #7
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We never tuck in for the night in our Airstream that I don't find myself thinking about emergency exiting. I know in our trailer that the rear window at the head of the bed is an emergency exit, I've looked at it, but I've never actually gone through the steps to prove that I could do it. Actually, I have visions of 1) being stuck half in and half out while the campground gathers round to offer suggestions while rolling on the ground laughing or 2) getting out, but not knowing how to put the window structure back together again. I propose Emergency Exit 101 to be put on the agendas of all upcoming forum rallies to be held this year and next. I'll just bet I'm not the only Airstreamer out there who is unskilled about using this lifesaving feature in our trailers. CanOpeners, what do you think? ~G
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:14 PM   #8
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So that's why they painted that window red, huh?

I've not "tried it out" - guess I will though now that this in my head!

Does it just pull free of the frame? In other words, am I gonna be dropping that puppy on the ground?

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Old 10-06-2007, 07:46 PM   #9
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I'm affraid to try-out the emergency window. I'm sure that it will come out as designed. I'm sure it will go right back in nicely and leak from then on.
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Old 10-06-2007, 07:55 PM   #10
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ok, i confess, i never have tested the emergency exits. october is fire prevention month! now would be a good tme to do it. it gives a plus to turning the ewater heater off at night.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:04 PM   #11
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They made the 34' with a double door for a couple of years in the 90's, it's one of my favorite Airstreams. The should at least offer it as an option.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:43 PM   #12
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There is no designated E- exit in our '66. I have an extinguisher next to the door but after reading in the Forums "What if a fire began between you and that door", I bought another extinguisher to place in the rear bath. Should such an emergency occur and the extinguisher isn't enough I can use it to smash the rear window. My wife and I don't have agile bodies anymore but if we have to we will tumble over each other getting through that window opening. It probably would be a good idea to smash that window before attempting to extinguish the fire. We have at least a plan.
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Mine has a second door.

OK it has a second door because it isn't an Airstream, but that is precisely one of the reasons I bought it.

I remeber one of the members having a mid-60's "California" model he was rebuilding. It had both doors on the curbside. There was also the late 40's Whirlwind with two doors curbside(unfortunately not many of those around).

My Spartan Mansion has the front on the curb and the back on the street. I love it but in my planning the new interior layout I am finding all sorts of things that could go in that space. Doors take a lot of room that would normally accept cabinetry or other items that run above the window line. The window may be the same width as a door or wider, but still allows things to be positioned underneath such as beds and tables.

Most trailer manufacturers are required to build their product according to certain building codes just as home builders do. The emergency window is required by code because you must have a second exit. Unfortunately, there is only so much room for a door as we all know.

Still, i prefer the two doors and I think manufacturers should listen to the buying public. I have learned, if you want something from a design, most of the time you can find a way to get it. I beleive Airstream can find a way to put in the second door at least as an option if enough people ask for it.

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what difference does it make which side the emergency door is on .....in an "emergency" I wouldn't care!
It would make sense for the window to be a door in our 27' FB with queen bed...is a retro fit possible?
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