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Old 11-03-2006, 07:41 PM   #29
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Originally Posted by wheel interested
Does a Hensley require less physical effort than the other hitches? The heaviest part of the Reeses dual cam is lifting the hitch with shank and ball into the car receiver. Our new one is heavier than the last and it takes me some real grunt power but once it is attached we do not remove it for the trip duration. As overlander says you definitely want an electric tongue jack. The trick to putting on the bars is to crank up the rear of the car with the jack to take tension off them until they are hooked up.
Heavy iron is heavy iron (Hensley, Reese, Equalizer). But I hear you on the weight of the hitch bar/ball combo. What's worse is when I put my Enkay Rockguard onto the hitch bar before I lift it off the ground -- though I do have that down to a system, assembling them in the proper orientation immediately below the receiver. However I do recognize that I'm both strong and healthy. Like Carol, ours also stays on the truck the entire trip. Carol's mention of engaging the WD bars definitely is easier the higher you electric jack the tongue. My Argosy is all hand crank but not a problem due to the lighter weight; I'd still install an electric jack if it was my primary trailer. The Safari would be a doozy without the electric jack.
Originally Posted by Roger
I don't have a dinette in our new trailer and don't miss it at all. In our 23' Safari years ago we had the front couch/fold out table and it worked very well. ..... If you have an electric tongue jack, there's not much manual labor involved in hitching up at all. It takes practice, but it's not difficult.
I went from a 24' narrow body Argosy to a 25' 11" wide body Safari. There is some difference backing but not much -- mostly visibility. Towing? The Argo is a powderpuff by comparison but a newer (read: heavier) 25' can't be towed with ease by anything less than a 3/4-ton tow vehicle.

re: Roger's comments on choosing between a dinette or gaucho. The new 25' FB has a dinette and a couch right next to it. Great social space!


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Old 11-03-2006, 07:57 PM   #30
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If you rent a TT with the wrong setup, hitch etc., it might send the wrong message. I'd probably take Terry at overlander 63's offer and get some first hand advice from a long time airstreamer. Could be fun.

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Old 11-03-2006, 10:09 PM   #31
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Hi starflyte1--We have traveled extensively in both motor homes, and our 27' Airstream trailer. If you consider what type of travel you will do, the decision becomes eaiser. If you move frequently, and are on the road 2 to 3 days a week you will be best served with a motor home. If you plan to be in one place for 2 weeks or more a travel trailer will be best.

Another thing to consider, which is well covered in the posts above, is the cost of motor home running gear maintenance, which is big. A $1000 doesn't go very far. A tow vehicle is a lot less expensive to maintain, a lot easier to replace, and a lot eaiser to use when you are home. Over 18-years we have traveled in our A/S as long as seven months, before returning home, and towed it with about five Chevy full size window vans, and 10 Suburbans, which also were our daily drivers. The maintenance on the A/S over this time was about $1500 for tires, batterys, brakes, water heater, and toilet. This year we got new Dexter axles for $1274, which will last longer than we will.--Frank S
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:04 AM   #32
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I've been following this thread and just had to add my 2 cents worth.
The comparisson of an SOB Class C with poor handling is interesting but perhaps a little off base regarding the questions of AS Moho or AS TT. Frank might want to take a ride in an AS moho and experience the quality.
The cost of an appropriate tow vehicle for a 25' TT will be quite a chunk of cash. Take the cost of a Classic AS now going cheap. Factor in a toad that you might already have, or the cost of an economical one. Now if you're in a location for a couple of weeks you have something economical to drive (lightweight toad) and sightsee from vs. a monster truck and monster monthly payment?
Either way you look at it, if you have a moho with a toad vs. a TT with a TV you have a combo that will require due care and dilligence while driving and parking.
At least we can all agree on one thing...."It's got to be Airstream."
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Old 11-04-2006, 06:45 AM   #33
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Terry, thanks for the offer! We may take you up on it.

Glen, we already have both a tv and a toad. Just bought the Suburban last week and really would not like to get rid of it. Like FoiledAgain said "big, heavy, honkin' CHEVY". Also hate to think of getting rid of my PT.

All of my questions and concerns are being addressed except one.
What does gen prep mean on a pricing sheet for a tt?

I am so lucky to have found this forum. We have made some costly mistakes in the past in chosing mhs, but think the next one, whether it be a mh or tt, will be THE one, due to all the discussions and suggestions on this board. Thanks!

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Old 11-04-2006, 06:51 AM   #34
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Originally Posted by starflyte1
All of my questions and concerns are being addressed except one.
What does gen prep mean on a pricing sheet for a tt?
General Preparation. It may also be listed as a PDI (pre-delivery inspection, or dealer prep). Usually consists of washing the coach, making sure the tires are properly inflated, wheel lugs torqued, lights and appliances work, etc. Usually takes the tech a couple of hours to do.
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Old 11-04-2006, 08:44 AM   #35
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Hi, Terry,

I mis-quoted the order form.

Someone has posted a 2005 order form. One of the options listed is "generator prep-remote" costing $227 and weighing 9 lbs.

Also, the 2006 has remote generator ready option. ??


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