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Old 03-12-2010, 12:32 PM   #309
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I don't necessarily believe that a Hummer id 'greener' that a Prius, but I do believe that a lot of the Prius claims are pure hype. When you consider the battery manufacture, transportation, and disposal, the Prius is probably not nearly as green as a Toyota Corolla or Chevy Cobalt. That being said, I really like Doorgunner's turd comment.

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Even Kermit sings that it is not easy being green.

But if it is this much of a reach for you to balance to Hummer comparisons to so called "Prius Hype" in one sentence sounds like you have an over active skeptic gland.

Maybe doorgunner can add a comment on how to relieve pressure on this gland. He seems to know something about excretions.

Are these jokes funny yet?
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Old 03-12-2010, 01:42 PM   #310
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So your opinion is reinforced by a disproven sham article? My question is why keep repeating it like it is the truth?

wall of cheese: The Myth that the Prius Outdoes Hummer In Environmental Damage

Care to read it for the first time?
No need too...

Please read my post....

I never insinuated it was the truth...

It took less than 2 min on the interweb to find a statement that was diametrically opposed to your belief.

The truth is what one believes it is...

I'm not going to change your mind...and I have no intention of trying.

Visie Vercy is all I ask...to each their own, whatever floats your boat, study and make up your own mind.

Excuse me... my Rice Krispies are calling.
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Old 03-12-2010, 02:32 PM   #311
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..sounds like someone is a bit overly sensitive about their perceptions of 'green' not being as 'green' as theyd like !
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:04 PM   #312
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No need too...

Please read my post....

I never insinuated it was the truth...

It took less than 2 min on the interweb to find a statement that was diametrically opposed to your belief.

The truth is what one believes it is...

I'm not going to change your mind...and I have no intention of trying.

Visie Vercy is all I ask...to each their own, whatever floats your boat, study and make up your own mind.

Excuse me... my Rice Krispies are calling.
Sooo.....because I made a comment about gas guzzlers piloted by soccer moms talking on their cell phone, you decided it was a good idea to provide this debunked article as a way to provide a fair and balanced discussion on the Toyota bash flash of the day thread?

It took two minutes to find one the world wide web!

Probably more time then the author of this fine piece of investigative journalism took to research the garbage you help contribute here.

So I will keep it in mind next time I am reading a post that you have contributed to.....It's not your thoughts, opinions, advice, or learned position about the subject at hand.

Just something you found on the that internet.....thing.
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Old 03-12-2010, 05:10 PM   #313
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Time for a review. This is per my memory

1. Toyota's had some alleged acceleration issues since around y2k
1.a hired former NHTSA person to negotiate with NHTSA
1.b has had "black box" but only one reader in CONUS
1.c State Farm, in looking over actuarial data, asked NHTSA if something wasn't right with Toyota

2. Toyota denied having any issues until late last year
2.a Blamed it on floormats until a Lexus was pulled from a pond with the floormats in the trunk
2.b blamed it on one pedal supplier
2.c DOT exec flew to Japan to tell Toyota to make a recall
2.d recall expands to Prius
2.e Japan government tells Toyota to recall Prius for braking problems

3. Damage recovery - roughly where we are now
3.a lots of apparently contradictory information from both Toyota and other drivers.
3.b some drivers' reports may be false
(it therefore follows) 3.c some Toyota claims may be false

Does that seem about where we are now? There may be new discoveries, but they may be weeks away.

In the meantime, the Tundra's recall for frame rust reaches out to another 30 states.

As stated before, I have owned a Toyota, and consider the brand's chief fault to be a mortifying dullness. It's a big world, though, and others may (ack, cough) like the look.
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research the garbage you help contribute here.

So I will keep it in mind next time I am reading a post that you have contributed to.....It's not your thoughts, opinions, advice, or learned position about the subject at hand.

Just something you found on the that internet.....thing.
Yep, please do....after all I found all your garbage rite here on the interweb.

More Whine.....table four.
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While I have learned many things about Airstreams on this forum...... the entertainment value is even better. All I can say is I am soooo gratefull to Al Gore for this wonderous invention. Adios, John
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...consider the brand's chief fault to be a mortifying dullness...
ditto that observation.

NOW finally somethin' about the yota is exciting (it's like they added a SUPER spin cycle to the washin' machine models)

the review is good, but here's todays issues...

1. a T'basher posts...

1.1. a T'lover bashes the T'basher with NOTHING related to the T'crashin' issues...

1.1.a. soccer mom, hummin', polutin' and yakkin' got nothing 2 do with nothin' in dis thread ...

1.1.a.z. but maybe that's just an attempt to keep folks from see'n those nascar tuned preUS pace cars rollin' by...

1.1.a.z.x. RC' attempts to rattle the T'lovers neurons back to a more neutral field...

666.0 while we FINALLY get some good humor thanks to dg'z turdification of things.

and the hijack'n continues...

2. mean while at the local auto show last weekend NO one was stopping at the yota display...

2.b. there were LOTs of folks looking, but 4 some reason they kept zooooom'n past the rather dull cars in the display ...





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Old 03-12-2010, 07:55 PM   #317
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I drove the Tundra about 50 miles today and it was really dull. I kept waiting to take off to the moon or Mars, but nothing happened.

I bought this thing because I wanted to go WARP 9.5. That's what the salesman told me it could do.

Still waiting for the Toyota Enterprise model.

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..Ive always thought of the Prius as the 'yellow livestrong bracelet' of the automotive world...its somethign to 'feel good about' while not actually accomplishing anything... I KNOW that the ones Ive been behind we NOT unintentionally accelerating...They tend to impede traffic on 2 lane highways to the point of causing more polution than they are saving...
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Still waiting for the Toyota Enterprise model.

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Yeah, apparently, dat one is susposed to be actually BETTER than State of the Art!

Can't w8!!
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I drove the Tundra about 50 miles today and it was really dull. I kept waiting to take off to the moon or Mars, but nothing happened.

I bought this thing because I wanted to go WARP 9.5. That's what the salesman told me it could do.

Still waiting for the Toyota Enterprise model.

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Hi, Gene your Toyota won't act up because it knows, that you know, what to do in case, it does act up. You know, the pot never boils when you watch it.
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..Ive always thought of the Prius as the 'yellow livestrong bracelet' of the automotive world...its somethign to 'feel good about' while not actually accomplishing anything... I KNOW that the ones Ive been behind we NOT unintentionally accelerating...They tend to impede traffic on 2 lane highways to the point of causing more polution than they are saving...
Dear uncool

So you think donating money to fight cancer research while showing support for Lance's foundation does not accomplish anything?
How shallow are you?

And, yes, the Prius produces more smug but very little smog. Also uses much less fossil fuel thereby reducing dependence on mideast oil, is extremely well built and economical.

I suggest medication and anger management class if fuel saving cars and cancer research sets you off again.
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